SPQR- What is holding it up?

[BuddyLove]

So, I've conquered everything for SPQR according to the guides-

I've checked and double checked for baronies; expelled Holy Orders, ECT.

Are there any other hidden requirements for this?

 

[Serenity84]

I have quadruple- and quintuple checked for baronies and still missed one.

 

[Warlord_Vlad]

I have quadruple- and quintuple checked for baronies and still missed one.

F.
Did you get it in the end?

 

[Serenity84]

Yes. I eventually found it. Diplomatic map mode can help

 

[BuddyLove]

How does diplomatic mode help?

When I look at that, literally everyone is just shades of green?

 

[BuddyLove]

I finally found it!

The Duchy of Adrar which is de jure part of the Kingdom of Hausland and Empire of Mali and is not on ANY of the maps showing the required area was the final straw!

I wish I'd known and I'd have saved myself 3 times through the entire empire hunting baronies, as well as an extra war since I could have gotten it and Sous at the same time with an Invasion.

 

[knppel]

I feel so lucky for doing SPQR pre-india when reading stuff like this

 

[eastcoastceojam]

When I saw your comment about needing the Duchy of Adrar for this achievement, I thought "No way!". Then I checked the achievement code and saw how much land is part of the region of "world_africa_north". Didn't know that Trajan made it all the way down to the Canary Islands. I'm glad to know this before I attempt this one for myself.

I'm still unsure what the "world_middle_east_jerusalem" region is exactly. Is that the entire "Near East" area that you need to create the Empire of Outremer?

Here's the relevant code (I think) for SPQR:

# Roman Borders
narrative_event = {
    id = LoR.40
    title = EVTNAMELoR.40
    trigger = {
        is_alternate_start = no
        has_dlc = "Legacy of Rome"
        OR = {
            has_landed_title = e_byzantium
            has_landed_title = e_roman_empire
        }
        OR = {
            religion_group = christian
            religion = hellenic_pagan
            religion = hellenic_pagan_reformed
        }
      
        completely_controls = d_northumberland
        completely_controls = d_lancaster
        completely_controls = d_york
        completely_controls = d_norfolk
        completely_controls = d_bedford
        completely_controls = d_hereford
        completely_controls = d_gloucester
        completely_controls = d_canterbury
        completely_controls = d_somerset
        completely_controls = d_gwynedd
        completely_controls = d_deheubarth
        completely_controls = d_cornwall
  
        completely_controls = d_edessa
        completely_controls = d_palmyra
        completely_controls = d_damascus
      
        completely_controls = d_normandy
        completely_controls = d_berry
        completely_controls = d_anjou
        completely_controls = d_orleans
        completely_controls = d_champagne
        completely_controls = d_valois
        completely_controls = d_burgundy
        completely_controls = d_aquitaine
        completely_controls = d_toulouse
        completely_controls = d_gascogne
        completely_controls = d_poitou
        completely_controls = d_auvergne
        completely_controls = d_bourbon
        completely_controls = d_brittany
        completely_controls = d_provence
        completely_controls = d_savoie
        completely_controls = d_dauphine
        completely_controls = d_upper_burgundy
      
        completely_controls = d_nikaea
        completely_controls = d_samos
        completely_controls = d_aegean_islands
        completely_controls = d_cibyrrhaeot
      
        completely_controls = d_anatolia
        completely_controls = d_thracesia
        completely_controls = d_charsianon
        completely_controls = d_armeniacon
        completely_controls = d_paphlagonia
        completely_controls = d_trebizond
      
        completely_controls = d_coloneia
        completely_controls = d_armenia_minor

        completely_controls_region = world_middle_east_jerusalem
        completely_controls_region = world_europe_south
        completely_controls_region = world_europe_west_iberia
        completely_controls_region = world_africa_north
    }
    immediate = {
            set_character_flag = achievement_spqr
        }
}

And here's the North Africa Region in CK2 in 2019:

Thanks, OP, for pointing this out to all of us.

 

[BuddyLove]

Yeah-- all of the guides and wikis are out of date and none of them have the current exact list of duchies needed.

I know you don't need everything in Near East like you would for Outremer-- I have all of K. Jerusalem, K. Syria, K. Al Jazeera, and K. Iraq + Basra, (and of course K. Egypt) and Duchy Arabia but do NOT HAVE All of K. Arabia or any of K. Yemen.

(I did this achievement backwards- started in Flanders, got independence for Kingdom of Frisia for those achieves, eventually formed Holy Roman Empire, destroyed Byzantine in a Crusade, retook that area after it had fallen to Khazaria, made Carpathia + destroyed HRE, reformed Byzantine, THEN retook the provinces to from Rome + the borders).

 

[Serenity84]

Yeah, the territory you need is a bit wonky. Too much in Africa. Not enough in Europe.

I'm still unsure what the "world_middle_east_jerusalem" region is exactly

You can find out which regions a county belongs to by clicking on that circular green button to right of the name

 

[Tapio]

I feel so lucky for doing SPQR pre-india when reading stuff like this

I've did it before and after, I don't know how it's supposed to be more difficult as far as hunting baronies goes... I had to look for them in both. Second time around I knew what to look for.

The recent additions were a surprise to me though... I need to do an Orthodox SPQR now.

 

[BuddyLove]

I've did it before and after, I don't know how it's supposed to be more difficult as far as hunting baronies goes... I had to look for them in both. Second time around I knew what to look for.

It wasn't the baronies that were the problem- it's really the out of date-ness of the guides which made it so I didn't know I needed things I needed.

 

[Tapio]

It wasn't the baronies that were the problem- it's really the out of date-ness of the guides which made it so I didn't know I needed things I needed.

I understand, it's surprising to me what is required now.

 

[eastcoastceojam]

After digging a little more, I think I figured out what is included in "world_middle_east_jersualem". It looks like there is a Jerusalem Region, which includes parts of de jure Syria. So, nowhere near as large as the "Near East" requirements for Outremer. See below: