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Focus equals Qualityand DAMN there’s a helluva lot of the highest-quality storytelling, animations and game design in HEAVY METAL!

Well done Team HBS, well done. :bow:
 

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I love this thread. Thank you for sharing your thoughts and keeping spoilers hidden. There are no post-mini-campaign Events. We just didn't have time for any and don't expect one in the future (wearing my loving but firm producer hat here).

don't spoil don't arggg! It's not easy ya know just giving a tantalizing hint with out actually saying.

Also umm in one of the HM story line quests Sumair references a previous meeting/encounter with black widow.. I don't recall that.. we supposed to have an encounter with the widow and/or the bounty hunter before we hit that point?
 

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don't spoil don't arggg! It's not easy ya know just giving a tantalizing hint with out actually saying.

Also umm in one of the HM story line quests Sumair references a previous meeting/encounter with black widow.. I don't recall that.. we supposed to have an encounter with the widow and/or the bounty hunter before we hit that point?
Earlier during the Mini-Campaign we defeated a pair of Bounty Hunter Lances. We also beat a pair of Black Widow Lances.

In both of these situation I believe these would have been the 2nd and 3rd Lances in their respective Companies.
 
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possibly so.. no this was a reference back to the why's of the Bounty Hunter Black Widow feud.

For the unenlightened way way back when during the early years of the Wolf Dragons in the inner sphere The Bounty Hunter blew Natasha out of her Marauder without killing her.. He purposely left her alive and taunted her with it which is something to twit a blood named clan warrior in a most serious way. She's run into him several times since. They eventually make a kind of non aggression pact especially after Natasha finds out that The Bounty Hunter is a title and a tradition and not just a specific person. There have been many persons who have been the Bounty Hunter. Michi Noketsuna yakuza mechwarrior and eventual Warlord of Derion for house Kurita for a short time was The Bounty Hunter. He took the position to avenge the mentor he most admired Tetsuhara.
 

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I'll just drop my feedback (no-spoiler run) here:
Unknown Origin absolutely delivered as a mini-campaign! I did lose a lot of C-bills running back to the outer periphery repeatedly from chasing 4-skull missions though. Also – 600 days in and NO black market invitation at all? L



-admit some nerves knowing we were about to go up against Natasha Kerensky

-not as attractive as I expected – based on her reputation – and the pop-over makes her even older than I thought (over 50 in 3025, and over 75 when she became a Star Colonel and then Khan during the Invasion era)

-Absolutely as much of an abrupt, pushy, bossy jerk as I should have expected. She had the "protagonist pass" on her jerk behavior in the books, but she's really an unpleasant person if you have not proven yourself to her.

-I could tell when it was raised that sending drones after her was just going to make her more mad and upset… on top of the fact that this is some sort of Clan-related thing that she has an irrational hate-on for.

-The Canon Black Widow company doesn't match up with what I saw attacking the spaceport. The canon lance is surprisingly light though, with lots of bugmechs.

-Bull Shark has a Wolverine logo on it? Yeah, we know what that means even if the characters don't. No wonder Natasha is so peeved. It's thinner front to back than the art had me thinking. I can see some resemblance to the Warhawk, Supernova, etc. line of Mechs. The Thumper, however, does not show up visibly in the MechLab? Unfortunately, the Thumper is Hard-locked, which meand that the BSK-MAZ has to have other weapons systems stripped off to bump its armor up. I'd really like to take the Thumper off and put in a Heat Exchanger and more HS instead.

-The final battle is freaking epic! Natasha's special ability is decent without being too OP. And yes, of course she's an "Ace Pilot." The BH's special blew one ammo stack (I think) but not much else. Also: Ouch, ended up with one Annihilator out of ammo and down half its weapons, my Bull Shark (special) ejecting because he was down to just 2 lasers, and my Highlander losing its right side. Lots and lots of heat. I had one heat shutdown (not sure the Thumper shows heat correctly). The two opfors had at least 3 more shutdowns.

-Salvage was great throughout the entire experience, except for the final encounter, which had some lostech components but zero chassis parts.

-I would have started earlier, except I thought that I needed to have assault mechs to even start it. The initial Flashpoint assignment is misleading, as the first part could be done with a lance of 50-60 ton mechs.

-Getting positive rep with every faction (by becoming more famous) was pretty nice!
 

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-Bull Shark has a Wolverine logo on it? Yeah, we know what that means even if the characters don't. No wonder Natasha is so peeved. It's thinner front to back than the art had me thinking. I can see some resemblance to the Warhawk, Supernova, etc. line of Mechs. The Thumper, however, does not show up visibly in the MechLab? Unfortunately, the Thumper is Hard-locked, which meand that the BSK-MAZ has to have other weapons systems stripped off to bump its armor up. I'd really like to take the Thumper off and put in a Heat Exchanger and more HS instead.
You may want to take a look at BSK-M3 then. It has no Thumper on it and can be found free-ranging during missions or on BM.
 

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For some reason, I thought the M3 had less usable tonnage (endo-steel/etc.) like the HGN-732B vs regular Highlanders. I see now that that is not the case.

Too bad I lost all of my Clantech autocannons against the Black Widow company :(
 
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Man, that final Black Widow fight was fun as heck! I took down Natasha and now I'm a freakin' legend!

This has been my favorite expansion so far for this game. Bloody genius!
 

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Is this all only in Career mode?
 

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Is this all only in Career mode?

In Campaign, the first FP which is supposed to be "Prototype", only shows up after the last story mission, so the odds are low that anyone has gotten that far in a new Campaign yet.
Also, I haven't seen anything so far that states the HM FP is Career-only.
 

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In Campaign, the first FP which is supposed to be "Prototype", only shows up after the last story mission, so the odds are low that anyone has gotten that far in a new Campaign yet.
Also, I haven't seen anything so far that states the HM FP is Career-only.
It is my understanding that just like all the current FLASHPOINTS, in due course the HEAVY METAL Mini-Campaign will be available to all gamers who finish the Aurigan Restoration Campaign.
 

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The mini campaign was truly amazing!
The last battle was a Lostech Slugfest for me, must be even more tough, if you try to beat it with the usual med laser jump jet boats a lot of players seem to use.
I just wished that contracts had a rare chance to spawn more custom Mechs with randomized Names and special Pilots, like in Assassination contracts. Field Refits aren't that common in Tabletop for regular Units, but also not impossible to encounter on the Battlefield and there are still a couple of unused, but lore approved Field Refits for some of our Ingame Mechs .
 

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I seem to be lost. I have been beaten to the stash of equipment by the professional and we talked and he gave me some crates of trash. nothing else has happen months in game time.
 

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In Campaign, the first FP which is supposed to be "Prototype", only shows up after the last story mission, so the odds are low that anyone has gotten that far in a new Campaign yet.
Also, I haven't seen anything so far that states the HM FP is Career-only.

Yeah, I have some flashpoint campaign way down south. Only issue? I have no lights lol. Given the whole 'assaults only' now, I cant find any. I need to find me a pack of Panthers or something.
 

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I seem to be lost. I have been beaten to the stash of equipment by the professional and we talked and he gave me some crates of trash. nothing else has happen months in game time.
As I recall, this next pause... basically between Acts 2 and 3 of the Mini-Campaign was much longer for me than the previous break in the action.

Have you built a 5-Skull Lance yet?

Even when I finally did, it took me a number of months before it kicked off.


As ever good luck and good HEAVY METAL gaming! :bow:
 

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Yeah, I have some flashpoint campaign way down south. Only issue? I have no lights lol. Given the whole 'assaults only' now, I cant find any. I need to find me a pack of Panthers or something.

No worries, then; a lance of mediums will do the trick. But, if you really want to collect some lights, it's just a matter of setting the filter of difficulty to a single skull and using your best mechwarriors to either headshot or knockdown or leg any light mechs you be interested in. :)
Unless you set your OpFor for the strongest, in which case it might be best to look for any contracts on a single half-skull difficulty.
 

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After some thought, i believe the Bull Shark, despite being Clan made, was built with SLDF tech.

It doesn´t seems to be more advanced than an Atlas II, and a Clantech 95t would be obviously superior.
It would have to predate the oldest Clantech mech in Sarna.net by at least 5 years to be built before its makers demise.
And its already a stretch Black Marketeers being able to reproduce SLDF tech mechs (but i reason the Baumann only a have a limited hand-built production and got contacts with places like NAIS for the know-how) , so it goes all the way into unbelievable that before Helm a IS organization would be able to replicate Clantech.
 
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After some thought, i believe the Bull Shark, despite being Clan made, was built with SLDF tech.

It doesn´t seems to be more advanced than an Atlas II, and a Clantech 95t would be obviously superior.
It would have to predate the oldest Clantech mech in Sarna.net by at least 5 years to be built before its makers demise.
And its already a stretch Black Marketeers being able to reproduce SLDF tech mechs (but i reason the Baumann only a have a limited hand-built production and got contacts with places like NAIS for the know-how) , so it goes all the way into unbelievable that before Helm a IS organization would be able to replicate Clantech.
@ronhatch and @Leraje_ ran down some of the specifics for the BULL SHARK. Apparently...

Apparently its Fusion XL Engine is quite advanced. Like beyond SLDF and Clan combined. A real miracle of Gulo-Luscus production...
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I have lots of assault mechs for 5 star missions. Ive been playing career mode with my starting character. I have the star league Atlas and Highlander along with a 2 King Crabs and a Battlemaster with upgraded weapons. I was worried I was missing something. Thanks
 

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No worries, then; a lance of mediums will do the trick. But, if you really want to collect some lights, it's just a matter of setting the filter of difficulty to a single skull and using your best mechwarriors to either headshot or knockdown or leg any light mechs you be interested in. :)
Unless you set your OpFor for the strongest, in which case it might be best to look for any contracts on a single half-skull difficulty.

Well, I only need lights because there are contracts that say "Tonnage: Lights".