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Hey guys,

I just reinstalled my copy of Vicky and downloaded the 1.04 patch. Now I could be crazy, but did they get rid of the pop splitting button or was that just a feature in Ricky?

Good question.. Its been soo long since I have played Vicky so im not sure, but im pretty sure it still had it.

Sorry to hijack the thread a bit here, but It seems like a good place to ask. Is there an ideal time to split POPs?

I tend to split them once they hit 40k, but the few that I have let grow seem to grow faster once they get up to 45-60k. Is it worth waiting till 60k and spliting them twice and then waiting again?

Or in the long term does it all even out anyways?
 

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Split as soon as. If you split at 40k then the two POP stacks will have the same combined growth as one stack of 40+ k, just they would be more productive in two stacks as opposed to one.
 

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Been such a long time... but I believe only in Revolutions. Might be wrong though?

Either way... just get the Revolutions expansion!

Revolutions only.


I've always wondered what the effect of splitting on population growth is. Does a POP grow faster as a single, large one or many smaller ones? Mathematically, I'm not sure it would make a difference, but you know how the game works in mysterious ways.
 

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If you split at 40k to get 10k and 30k POPs, then their combined increase after a month would equal the 40k POP stack's growth. It makes no difference to POP growth, from my observations.
 

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Revolutions only.


I've always wondered what the effect of splitting on population growth is. Does a POP grow faster as a single, large one or many smaller ones? Mathematically, I'm not sure it would make a difference, but you know how the game works in mysterious ways.

Yes, a*(b+c)=a*b+a*c. But IIRC, if you save the game, POP sizes aren't saved to the last decimal but rounded off, and I suspect it could make a difference if there's one or two POPs then. However, I think that effect would even itself out, since sometimes it would be to the favour of 1 POP and sometimes to 2.
 

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Sorry to hijack the thread a bit here, but It seems like a good place to ask. Is there an ideal time to split POPs?

I tend to split them once they hit 40k, but the few that I have let grow seem to grow faster once they get up to 45-60k. Is it worth waiting till 60k and spliting them twice and then waiting again?

Or in the long term does it all even out anyways?

There are two valid thresholds to split them, each with its advantages:

a) at 40k, you can split. It makes no difference to growth, but the two 10 and 30k pops will produce more than a single 40k pop.

b) at 66,667, if you split you get one 50k and one 16,667 pop. The 50k is the threshold for the maximum production rate, so you have the highest efficiency from an employed pop.

I usually pick a) if I have a small population, to maximize production, especially in RGOs.

I pick b) when I want the highest efficiency in my factories, for example if I don't want the production rate to drop (e.g. it's critically close to the 'needed' figure), but I don't have another immediately available job for the smaller pop in the same factory. Also, and marginally, if I want to drive demand for goods up.

But often b) is more a matter of personal tidiness, really. Industrial score is based on number of pops in factories, not on their size, anyways.
 

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I just use the wonderful popsplitter utility. Every so often, I'll just save and exit. Run the popsplitter, and then resume play.

This way, all nations play with a similar benefit/handicap. So far as pop is concerned anyway.

It should work with 1.04. I haven't test that.
 

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I just use the wonderful popsplitter utility. Every so often, I'll just save and exit. Run the popsplitter, and then resume play.

This way, all nations play with a similar benefit/handicap. So far as pop is concerned anyway.

It should work with 1.04. I haven't test that.
I think Gotikiller's POP splitter was for pre-Revolutions, with dietmar1982's for Revolutions?? Might be mistaken, though?
 

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I think Gotikiller's POP splitter was for pre-Revolutions, with dietmar1982's for Revolutions?? Might be mistaken, though?

I'm pretty sure the latest version Dietmar made works with both pre-Revolutions Victoria and Revolutions savegames.
 

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I think Gotikiller's POP splitter was for pre-Revolutions, with dietmar1982's for Revolutions?? Might be mistaken, though?

Check with Jingles.:D;)