Split English culture

[Vityviktor]

Given how some cultures were split depending on geographical and/or linguistic factors (even Japanese culture was split in three different sub-cultures based on its dialects), I find weird that English culture remains untouched.

I think a simple Southern-Northern English divide could work. Also, this new Northern English culture could be the main culture for the releasable Northumberland tag.

 

[Pbhuh]

I think it makes a lot of sense

I know some people love to have larger cultures, but I think splitting English between Southern (Wessex and influence) and Northern (Northumbrian influence) makes sense both historically and modern day.

So many other languages are split between prime dialects.

 

[Aquamancer]

I dunno. Cultures in EU4 mainly exist to define separatism, provide province-specific penalties to tax rate/manpower & sailor gain/missionary strength/local unrest, and the names of local ruling class (be they the ruling class, advisors, generals, admirals or revolt leaders).

So, would the Northern English be distinct enough from the southerners to:

1. Have a common shared identity so distinct from the southerners that they would be seen as distinct ethnic groups by each other and foreigners?
2. Have political desire for independence from Southern England as a result of said cultural differences?
3. Have distinct naming habits, either due to using first names and surnames that aren't used in Southern England, or due to not using names used in Southern England?

 

[Vin55]

Compared to Germany I dont see a reason for that, we have/had our own languages and the states were very independent, as see in cultural differences and traditions, I dont know if england is in that sense divers enough, same with northern France I guess...
But I mean you could potential argue for it earlier in the game? (Maybe have a mission to mend the culture later)

 

[Vityviktor]

I dunno. Cultures in EU4 mainly exist to define separatism, provide province-specific penalties to tax rate/manpower & sailor gain/missionary strength/local unrest, and the names of local ruling class (be they the ruling class, advisors, generals, admirals or revolt leaders).

So, would the Northern English be distinct enough from the southerners to:

1. Have a common shared identity so distinct from the southerners that they would be seen as distinct ethnic groups by each other and foreigners?
2. Have political desire for independence from Southern England as a result of said cultural differences?
3. Have distinct naming habits, either due to using first names and surnames that aren't used in Southern England, or due to not using names used in Southern England?

I mean, as I said earlier, they already put a releasable/revolter Northumberland tag in the game, to portray this. It's currently using English as the main culture, but I think having a new Northern English culture would fit better. Given how they introduced new releasable tags, some of them making sense (the Gaeldom as the Gaelic Highlands, or the sub-realms of the Crown of Aragon like Mallorca or Valencia) while others don't (Asturias) to allow interesting scenarios, and that they're doing the same with cultures (providing more detail and interesting aspects in game mechanics), this would be the perfect moment to introduce Northern English culture to further improve gameplay in England and benefit the already present Northumberland releasable/revolter tag.

Of course this Northern English culture would be in the same group as English, so we could assume they're not considered a completely distinct ethnic group, or as foreigners. Their political desire for independence could be as it currently is in every other place in the world where new revolter tags and new cultures were added. England is not a particularly unstable realm, so they wouldn't have problems with that, unless they're result of a foreign invasion or a peace treaty (imagine, a Scottish/French sponsored Northumberland, or something derived from Religious unrest). As with the names and surnames, they could share most of them with English culture, as it currently happens between different cultures portrayed in the game.