Splinter group silently rejoined FE

[trybald]

I am doing a playthrough as a highly xenophile UNofE (humans are now just below 40% of total population). A nearby xenophobe Fallen Empire made its favorite passtime out of bullying me. 170 years into the game, after they ordered me to abandon a colony that was REALLY away from their borders, I refused to give in. So, they declared war on me. After years of desperate fight, I managed to destroy their (already thinned) fleet in one titanic battle. I proceeded to liberate my worlds and then I brought the war into their own turf. They surrendered after spitting a few more insults and created a splinter xenophile nation (I set "liberation" as wargoal).

I immediately befriended and guaranteed the new state and hoped to vassalize them the next month. However at the turn of the month they silently rejoined their old FE. The game even failed to notify me about it, I noticed that only because I was looking at them at the very moment.

Is it WAD? This basically robbed me out of fruits of my extremely costly victory.

 

[prismaticmarcus]

I am doing a playthrough as a highly xenophile UNofE (humans are now just below 40% of total population). A nearby xenophobe Fallen Empire made its favorite passtime out of bullying me. 170 years into the game, after they ordered me to abandon a colony that was REALLY away from their borders, I refused to give in. So, they declared war on me. After years of desperate fight, I managed to destroy their (already thinned) fleet in one titanic battle. I proceeded to liberate my worlds and then I brought the war into their own turf. They surrendered after spitting a few more insults and created a splinter xenophile nation (I set "liberation" as wargoal).

I immediately befriended and guaranteed the new state and hoped to vassalize them the next month. However at the turn of the month they silently rejoined their old FE. The game even failed to notify me about it, I noticed that only because I was looking at them at the very moment.

Is it WAD? This basically robbed me out of fruits of my extremely costly victory.

you've still weakened them. though i think you'll need to keep your eyes on the calendar from now on.

 

[trybald]

Will they start the war all over again?

 

[The Founder]

Liberation creates a default empire that owns the planet. A default empire that owns the planet will drastically increase the chance for Awakening. I would asume WAD, if nothing else to avoid you having to deal with an awakening.
My guess is the Xenophobe FE send a Diplomatic Demand, wich was accepted by the Liberated AI. Similar stuff happened with a newcommer Empire spawning close to the Xenophobes and being ordered to abandon thier Colony - it appears it only checks it's own fleet.

Will they start the war all over again?

Fallen empires lack any ability to produce ships. However there is a event that grants them ships if their fleetpower is below 5k and they are at peace. If anything you are more likely to beat them now.
If they awaken they do get free ships and the ability to build more again.

 

[trybald]

Thanks for the clarification. How many ships do the FEs get via events?


Also, I also have a spiritual FE neighbour at next door. My materialist ally somehow managed to make them mad and now I am at war with another FE. Nothing serious, they ignore me almost entirely despite the fact that we share a long border.

However I am looking at those juicy holy Gaia worlds that happen to all lie within my space. Now that I am at war anyway, is it a good idea to colinize them, wait as the FE grinds down wrecking my allies and to destroy their fleet in one sweep? Is there a chance they will awake if I sit on their holy lands?

 

[The Founder]

However I am looking at those juicy holy Gaia worlds that happen to all lie within my space. Now that I am at war anyway, is it a good idea to colinize them, wait as the FE grinds down wrecking my allies and to destroy their fleet in one sweep? Is there a chance they will awake if I sit on their holy lands?

No awakening on Holy Sizes in 1.4 Just normal war declaration.
Also defeating an FE Fleet can actually remove it from the lsit of awakening. A certain minimum Fleetpower is needed for awakening to trigger.