Speculation on initial date of I:R

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Kliwarrior

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The posted screenshot shows 450.

Given that the date is "AUC" (Ab Urbe Condita) , it is the 303.BC .

I don't think this will be the start date or the game

323 BC. could be a good date (death of Alexander)

Other good dates could be
- 336 ( beginning of the reign of Alexander)
- 352 ( birth of Alexander )
- 372 ( battle of Mantinea and end of the Theban Hegemony )

Ideas ?
 

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sorry ninj'd by other thread
 

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When do the game end, before Augustus?

Assuming the game isn't railroaded (to restrict you from forming the empire before it's time, kind of how the revolutions in EU4 can't happen in 1444) I don't really see a logical enddate. It would have to be something that is equally logical wheter Rome exists or not really, so basically something coming from outside (barbarian migrations and the huns?) or a shift in technology and society like towards the end of EU4 and CK2. Maybe the rise of christianity but that feels like a pretty short timeline. Come on PDX, give us an enddate!
 

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The announcement says 4 centuries, assuming it will end sometime during first century ad, or early second century
 

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Assuming the game isn't railroaded (to restrict you from forming the empire before it's time, kind of how the revolutions in EU4 can't happen in 1444) I don't really see a logical enddate. It would have to be something that is equally logical wheter Rome exists or not really, so basically something coming from outside (barbarian migrations and the huns?) or a shift in technology and society like towards the end of EU4 and CK2. Maybe the rise of christianity but that feels like a pretty short timeline. Come on PDX, give us an enddate!
300 and odd years isn't too bad as a timeline, certainly not for an initial release.
 

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I see time expansion dlcs on the horizon, like they did for ck2 ... and I like the thought. ;)
 

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It's still early days, obviously, but I imagine that an Old Gods/Charlemagne style DLC that gives us a 'Megas Alexandros' start date is basically inevitable.
This was my first thought, too. Maybe even a start for Philip, too, if the mechanics make it straightforward enough. They deserve the focus, frankly, so I'm perfectly alright with it not being there at base.
 

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This was my first thought, too. Maybe even a start for Philip, too, if the mechanics make it straightforward enough. They deserve the focus, frankly, so I'm perfectly alright with it not being there at base.

There is a one problem I see in all this that will make the time extending DLCs problematic. In CK2 the DLC added an entire age, for example the viking age. DLC adding a start date for some specific event may not be entirely viable. People tend to play the earliest date available to them, so a DLC let's say focused on Philip/Alexander would likely mean that any further addition of start date in a future DLC would likely break it, because earlier start would just make the probability of Macedonia's raise unlikely, thus depriving many people of the previously added content.

For this reason I am not so sure about the start dates for very specific events e.g. reign of Alexander, Battle of Thermopylae etc. If there is expansion in timeline it would probably have to be tied to something more substantial, like entirely different geopolitical situation in the world (Charlamagne) or significant religious difference (Old Gods).

Sadly reenacting specific battles and events is hard, when the slightest roll of random generator can annex countries decades before those events happen.

I am still quite curious to see how the late game is handled and if there is something that will give us historical figures like Julius Caesar. What if by the time his age comes I already dominated he world? What if I failed and am just a small blip in Italy? What if I became a tribal judaic theocracy led by a horse?
 

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Ipsos is Modern Greek. Ἱψός is Ancient Greek.

I think the reason why PDS tends to avoid endonyms is to avoid these insufferably pedantic Wikipedia fueled arguments.

Have you ever played ck2 or eu4? Paradox doesn't avoid endonyms. They decide on a case by case basis which one they like more.