SPECIAL TITLE BLOCKS ME!

[Sir Stanczyk]

AAA! I need help
I have created Slavic Church before making any duchy and now I cannot create any Duchy title so all my counties cannot be inherited by my sons.
I cannot destroy Slavic Church title because it is special. What can I do!?

 

[Vokasak]

If you control the slavic church title, how did you not immediately get a game over for becoming a theocracy?

Try console commands to give away d_slavic_pagan_reformed to someone else.

 

[Zsrai]

AAA! I need help
I have created Slavic Church before making any duchy and now I cannot create any Duchy title so all my counties cannot be inherited by my sons.
I cannot destroy Slavic Church title because it is special. What can I do!?

Sounds like you cheated to become the Slavic Church instead of reforming the religion.... time to either learn from your mistakes or continue to blatantly cheat and do what @Vokasak said (among other console commands).

 

[Rags17]

One good cheat deserves another.

 

[MrParadux]

Wow, interesting. You don't get shifted into a theocracy automatically, if you give yourself the d_slavic_pagan_reformed title. Government is "nogovernment". Even more interesting is, that I was able to give all titles except d_slavic_pagan_reformed away without getting a game over.

I thought it was no longer possible to play landless characters

 

[SaphireSeas]

I thought it was no longer possible to play landless characters

Clarification: You can play on as long as you have a title which is higher than barony rank.
Thus you could console switch to mercenaries/Holy Orders/Adventurers because their government form is not illegal.

If you control the slavic church title, how did you not immediately get a game over for becoming a theocracy?

This. I want too know this.

 

[Rags17]

FWIW I created my own Holy Order then switched to it by console and have been playing the same Order for over 130 years with no issues. My heir is almost always unrelated to me since I can't marry and I can have no family, but some strategic Seductions produced a few (legitimized) bastards so I have had two instances of kids eventually following in their father's footsteps.

One child appeared as the result of the "Wolf Blood" event chain so it was kind of cool when our little Turkish foundling eventually grew up to become the Croatian speaking Catholic grand master of the order !

 

[Sir Stanczyk]

I started to play with CK2 Plus mod. If it is considered a cheat then sorry
In Vanilla it never happened when I reformed a religion :/

 

[DevilSauron]

After the HL patch, you can even become pope without game over but you get "nogovernment", so it's not that funny game

 

[Sir Stanczyk]

No it wasn't funny when I reformed a religion and then suddenly I couldn't create any title equal (so duchy) or higher after that.
And of course no son could inherit any title I had so I though that game is over for me... :/

 

[Zsrai]

I started to play with CK2 Plus mod. If it is considered a cheat then sorry
In Vanilla it never happened when I reformed a religion :/

If you did this with a mod, you need to post it in the appropriate mod forum. Mods change so much, especially the bigger ones like CK2+ and HIP (not to mention the complete overhauls), that mentioning these issues in the "vanilla" general forum is basically a complete waste of time.

 

[Sir Stanczyk]

I didn't know it was because of mod. I thought it was because of Horse Lords. Just move it please to CK2+ subforum.

 

[Zsrai]

I didn't know it was because of mod. I thought it was because of Horse Lords. Just move it please to CK2+ subforum.

If you run mods at all, the first guess should always be "This likely happened because of the mod". The bigger ones change SO MUCH of the game.

If you want this moved, I believe that you can report your own thread to have it moved.

 

[sejemaset]

Well this is in the proper forum now....

As a bug fix is it possible to prevent religion reformations without being at least king rank?

 

[schwarherz]

I...have literally never seen this happen. What did you do, give yourself the holy sites to make the reformation before ever holding a duchy?

 

[sejemaset]

I...have literally never seen this happen. What did you do, give yourself the holy sites to make the reformation before ever holding a duchy?

You can do it while holding a duchy, just not a kingdom, I've done it in vanilla with Norse.

 

[schwarherz]

You can do it while holding a duchy, just not a kingdom, I've done it in vanilla with Norse.

Yes but from what I'm reading he glitched out because he did it as a count...

EDIT: Ah. I see what happened. I'll fix it for next release. If you would like to fix it for yourself, go into the ck2plus_titles.txt in the landed titles folder and remove the line "primary = yes" from the pagan religion head you're playing as.

 

[Sir Stanczyk]

Yes. I made many children Married them to many other counts. I had many allies all over eastern europe. Then (as a holder of one holy site already - Plock) I conquered Braiła (Birlad) and Kijów (Kiev) and Novogród (Novgorod). So I was able to reform a religion but I was still a count and after a reformation I couldn't create any title (like Duchy of Mazovia, or rather High Chiefdom )
Oh yes one to mention I have started a game with shattered realms.