spanish nation

[unmerged(12740)]

So I take it that the marriage of Ferdinand and Isabel is not even a choice and you have to conquer Aragon to start the Spanish nation?

(Just downloaded EU3 Divine Wind, thinking it had all mods, but in the choose mod slot it just offers "default"--what's that about?)

 

[Chronicler]

So I take it that the marriage of Ferdinand and Isabel is not even a choice and you have to conquer Aragon to start the Spanish nation?

(Just downloaded EU3 Divine Wind, thinking it had all mods, but in the choose mod slot it just offers "default"--what's that about?)

Aragon has no heir when game starts. Force a PU, inherit. Create Spain.

 

[unmerged(12740)]

Aragon has no heir when game starts. Force a PU, inherit. Create Spain.

How do you "force" a personal union? It doesn't appear to be a victory option.

 

[unmerged(397168)]

(Just downloaded EU3 Divine Wind, thinking it had all mods, but in the choose mod slot it just offers "default"--what's that about?)

You're thinking of expansions, not mods. Mods are made by the community, expansions by the game developer. Playing with DW includes all expansions - you have to download mods yourself.

 

[Chronicler]

How do you "force" a personal union? It doesn't appear to be a victory option.

Royal marriage

You need higher prestige

Claim throne

then right away declare a succession war

win

force PU

raise relations

 

[jdrou]

Or you just marry and hope for a random PU or inheritance (which would be roughly the historical path I believe).

And yes when you install Divine Wind it includes all the content of earlier versions; there are no "selectable" expansions. The same was true of all the earlier expansions as well.

 

[unmerged(12740)]

hmm that seems easier said than done, Aragon's prestige went pretty much immediately to 29, by the time I managed to get more, after annexing Grenada--which involved me in a war it seemed against everyone in the Muslim world, getting a good random event, and a mission to build army to 99% of force limit, ie 1404, it doesn't look like their claim is bad or that they don't have a successor anymore. or does that change later?

 

[Chronicler]

hmm that seems easier said than done, Aragon's prestige went pretty much immediately to 29, by the time I managed to get more, after annexing Grenada--which involved me in a war it seemed against everyone in the Muslim world, getting a good random event, and a mission to build army to 99% of force limit, ie 1404, it doesn't look like their claim is bad or that they don't have a successor anymore. or does that change later?

Should be easy, your prestige doesn't need to be much higher.

 

[joshau-k]

hmm that seems easier said than done, Aragon's prestige went pretty much immediately to 29, by the time I managed to get more, after annexing Grenada--which involved me in a war it seemed against everyone in the Muslim world, getting a good random event, and a mission to build army to 99% of force limit, ie 1404, it doesn't look like their claim is bad or that they don't have a successor anymore. or does that change later?

You should probably restart and try again, hoping Aragon's prestige doesn't go up as quick at the start this time.

Having a bad claim or no successor is something that happens every now and again, but at the start of the game alot of countries start with no heir (for some strange reason) so it's always the best chance to claim the throne.

 

[brifbates]

You should probably restart and try again, hoping Aragon's prestige doesn't go up as quick at the start this time.

Having a bad claim or no successor is something that happens every now and again, but at the start of the game alot of countries start with no heir (for some strange reason) so it's always the best chance to claim the throne.

Or you can play it out, just keep an eye on the weak heir list and if/when they show up again you can go that route. There are other ways to acquire the needed lands. In most games Aragon will start with a day 1 DoW on Navarra and quickly defeat it resulting in the hefty prestige gain you saw.

 

[unmerged(12740)]

thanks for help everyone ... might be that the easiest route is conquest ... the event system has changed radically from EUII, clearly.

 

[unmerged(204522)]

aragon is easy to defeat militarily if you wait for them to be weakened by the italians......

 

[Voltigeurs]

you might also be interested in forcing a pu on portugal for future operations(always help to only have one front)

 

[generalolaf]

Make lots of RMs at the very start, every successful offer you make gets you 1 prestige (although every refusal loses you one). With any luck, you should have enough prestige to claim before the year is out.

 

[Chronicler]

Make lots of RMs at the very start, every successful offer you make gets you 1 prestige (although every refusal loses you one). With any luck, you should have enough prestige to claim before the year is out.

Though that would also kill his relations with all those countries when he claims his shit.

 

[unmerged(80402)]

Well, he can just wait till his king dies, and then make 1 RM and claim throne...

 

[generalolaf]

If you make RMs with small HRE nations, the relations hit shouldn't hurt too much.