Spanish Civil War, DH 1937 as Spanish Republic

[allie-cat]

If the appearance of partisans in eastern Spain during the civil war is meant to represent the revolutionaries in arms against the Stalinist/liberal counterrevolution, this is fairly blatant propaganda considering that A) wouldn't have happened if it wasn't for the counterrevolution, and for that matter the Stalinists fired the first shot and B) there was never any attempt in reality to disrupt the war effort against the fascists, nor would there have been, because the revolutionaries cared (at least) as much about defeating them as the Stalinists did. (of course it's quite possible that it's not a scripted event, the partisans in this version are fascists and the placement/timing is a coincidence)

 

[Pasha]

Calm down. I doubt very much that's what it's supposed to represent. It's probably due to very high dissent in those provinces and also a way to guarantee that Republican Spain loses the war. In previous versions Republican Spain seemed to win 80 percent of the time.

 

[allie-cat]

And losing 80% of the time is much better lol. The Republic probably won 80% of the time in previous versions because players didn't bring troops back from the front in order to enforce a regressive policy and imprison thousands of their most committed militants in the process

 

[allie-cat]

There should certainly be some model of the ideological divisions within Republicanism, but one that takes account of the nuances of the situation and doesn't force the player to do what Azana, Caballero and Negrín did

 

[Stuka Ju87 D3]

IIRC Spanish Civil War:

Republicans: O_O What the **** are those?
Nationalists: Stukas.
Republicans: O_O Where the **** from ?
Nationalists: Germany.
Republicans Q_Q
Nationalists:
Republicans: X_X
Nationalists: GG
Republicans: YARLY

On a serious note,

Dear Allie,

The Republican AI won vs. the Nationalist AI 80% of the time. That ratio is unrealistic given the historical progress of the Spanish Civil War. What about AI vs. human? I highly doubt that a human player who has a level of experience in the game will have problems winning as either the Republicans or Nationalists. If you have difficulty, please ask for advice. I myself had difficulties with the game early on (2006).

I agree with you 100% that the Spanish Civil War can be significantly improved. It looks like you are interested in this conflict. I believe that the DH community would very much benefit if you were to start a Spanish Civil War mod! You'd certainly earn my praise!

Best,
Stuka

P.S.: Try the WIF-II mod... i think it had more events on Spain.

 

[Egg Bub]

Looking at OP, don't take Burgos straight away. If you force all the Nationalists into the North West corner of Spain, you will have to fight WWI to finally kill them. Best to surround the capital and take it last.

 

[TK3600]

I started in 1933. By 1935, I lost hald my tech team for no reason? Help.

 

[allie-cat]

Looking at OP, don't take Burgos straight away. If you force all the Nationalists into the North West corner of Spain, you will have to fight WWI to finally kill them. Best to surround the capital and take it last.

Yeah, that's my usual strategy. Doesn't always work out that way though I think what went wrong here is that the enemy capital was Burgos (historically inaccurate I think? Pretty sure in reality it was Seville), and I wasn't able to hold Euskadi. Once I lost control of Santander, I don't think I would have been able to retake it without holding Burgos (although I was running an offensive to attempt to do so when I took that screenshot). But yeah, I wasn't actually trying to take Burgos at any point, only to kick the troops out of it so that I could keep it surrounded more easily when I managed to do so and so that when I encountered them again elsewhere they'd be unsupplied

Funnily enough I first came up with the strategy playing the Kaiserreich version of the Spanish Civil War

I started in 1933. By 1935, I lost hald my tech team for no reason? Help.

If this is as Spain and the loss of a tech team coincides with the coup (I'm pretty sure in my case it happened on 17 June 1936 - ie the historically accurate date - but maybe it's possible-but-unlikely for it to happen earlier or later?) then it's because the missing tech team f*cked off to join the fascists, or that was my interpretation anyway. You'll also find that a good chunk of your military units sided with the fascists (it is a coup, after all)

 

[TK3600]

It was 1935, coup didn't even start.

 

[allie-cat]

Ok. So no then, it's not possible for it to happen earlier or later. In that case I can't help you, sorry x_x