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I played yesterday a 1936 scenario with rep. Spain with Hoi2 and I read today more information in Wikipedia dedicated pages for the civil war in Spain between 1936 and 1939. The political situation was really complex.

I wonder how it will look in Spain when the country will be cut in two parts, regarding to the new system with the rebels that will be implemented in HoI3. Will we see some provinces "owned" by rebels?

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I'm reading the twitter thx :)

but my question is related to the use of rebels in the game... I'm not speaking about nationalist forces that appear in the middle of 1936, but about rebels that can be more for the nationalist and other that can be more for the republicans...
 
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The problem with rebels at least in EU3:IN is that, well they don't really cut to the cheese so to speak. They represent individual country tags and nothing else. What this means is that if you have Cosmopolitaine patriots in Brittany or Burgundy wanting to take over a province and defect to France, they end up fighting French vassals.

I see no reason why this wouldn't be so in HOI3 (Although I wish, I really do, that they would have patriots fighting for any of the three ideologies, thus a French patriot won't fight the Swiss). Thus, and with other modifiers in place (Rebels can't handle diplomacy, they can't build units, they can't do anything) the Spanish civil war should, predominantly, be represented as the fight of two blocs, no matter how unhistorical that may be. If it isn't (Basques and Catalans being represented as rebels or whatnot), it will be mighty easy for the Nationalists to win the war no matter what.

The question you need to ask yourself, in my opinion, is not whether or not it will be historical for the Spanish civil war to be fought by two independent nations both fledging organized armies, but whether or not any other alternative will be A.possible in terms of the system/AI/whatnot B.yielding the same results by 1939 C.In place for a game that concentrates on world war two on a global scale.

Considering how pretty much everything else is abstracted in the game, for example Yugoslavia after the axis occupation, Bitter peace giving all the territory to Germany (And not puppets) and so on, I'm rather inclined to believe that HOI3 will have the same Spanish civil war as HOI2 did.
 

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The game also needs to take notice of special units and generals commanding special units.

For example, in HOI2, because of the complete randomness of which units become republican and which become nationalist, you often saw the POUM and CNT militias becomming a nationalist unit. Units under the command of Franco, Mola etc. should also join the nationalists.