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I think that the main problem was that Germany was a bit UP. +1% IC to admin genius and prince of terror, and +10% IC to Germany later, AI Germany has progressed to 2 provinces shy of both Leningrad and Moscow, making similar progress in the south (I'm playing my custom Chinese warlord; the unification of China is well underway and Japan has been off the mainland + Taiwan for 2+ years now). To be fair, it's still short of historical progress, and they did start Barbarossa in April, but if they keep it up next year, they'll break the Soviet Union, which, as Cpt. Obvious would put it, is "more than what they did historically". I have decisions for wars with both of them, but I'll wait for a clear-cut winner to make it interesting. Though I will have to conquer and puppet Siberia before I can get to Germany, if they win.
Edit: And as to why Germany was a bit UP? Well, it's by far the most played country - main aggressor = lots of activity, plus tank goodness and great tech overall, and since players have gotten so good at this game, Germany was the obvious target for (mostly indirect) nerfing.
Notice how, in DH, both the USA and the Soviet Union have huge advantages over Germany: The USA start with 500 base IC, which while historical, is still a f***'n lot (they have entered the war recently in my game and have 965 effective IC, this AFTER I slapped full Free Market countries, like the States, with -10% IC), and the Soviets have Stalin, who reduces the overall IC cost of units to 64% (65% for me as I've changed it to -35% unit production time), and European Russia, which can be attacked effectively less than half of every year because mud.
Edit: Never mind the States with 965 IC, they're full central planning because they put money in the CP-increasing decisions. They're down to a much saner level now: 728 (which would be 788 in vanilla).
Edit: And as to why Germany was a bit UP? Well, it's by far the most played country - main aggressor = lots of activity, plus tank goodness and great tech overall, and since players have gotten so good at this game, Germany was the obvious target for (mostly indirect) nerfing.
Notice how, in DH, both the USA and the Soviet Union have huge advantages over Germany: The USA start with 500 base IC, which while historical, is still a f***'n lot (they have entered the war recently in my game and have 965 effective IC, this AFTER I slapped full Free Market countries, like the States, with -10% IC), and the Soviets have Stalin, who reduces the overall IC cost of units to 64% (65% for me as I've changed it to -35% unit production time), and European Russia, which can be attacked effectively less than half of every year because mud.
Edit: Never mind the States with 965 IC, they're full central planning because they put money in the CP-increasing decisions. They're down to a much saner level now: 728 (which would be 788 in vanilla).
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The number of divisions is pretty historical. But if they are as techological up to date as you as well that may be a bit overpowered. Remember, Soviet had some 500 divisions in 1942!
I have the suspicion you are one of those who try to advance on a broad front though. Germany could never do this, not even against Poland
I started my invasion on 20th June 1941, this is what I got after 6 weeks. Playing on Normal. There are only very few soviets defending the line somehow (compared to my large force), I focus on North and there weren't a lot of progress in the south (the soviet concentration of force is in the south) until 10th July there is a major breakthrough where I successfully pocketed/overran a bunch of divisions (at least 20).
Key is to pocket and overrun enemies - the soviets retreat slower than you advance somehow. Use bombers to speed up the process. I destroyed no less than 100 divisions and now roughly 30 divisions are pocketed by me. Intelligence show that they have 295 divisions when war started now they have 176, which a large number of them aren't going to matter very soon anyway as I am forming another pocket in the south which would have an insane amount (I guess like 30 something) of divisions in it.
Now I outnumber the Soviets in all places except around the pocket - I am waiting to starve them out. The Finns somehow don't want to join the war - weird. Else I'll have Leningrad by now.
My strike force is 182 divisions (most are infantry/mountain troops, only like 6 mot and 6 arm, you don't need a lot of tanks anyway) + 3 in Norway waiting for Finns to join the war (damn...quick!), I have a substantial amount of troops guarding West Europe (30 divisions) though Britain is defeated in 1940, the funny thing is that Britain got annexed by Canada and now I am trying to sink the rest of Canada's fleet which includes 5 battleships.... (rest are destroyed by my navy, Bismarck ftw)
Airforce consist of 8 CAS wings, 12 Tactical bomber wings, and ~20 intercept fighter wings (somehow I forgot to bring in 8 of them eek just realized). They do help a lot.
This is the initial force setup (before the invasion), you could almost guess which provinces I am going to attack.
it is not yet won (the war), but I guess unless something drastic happens I'm going to win... (though I found my troops in the north are running out of steam org wise - a dangerous sign, I need to keep pushing ...) I am planning on reaching Rostov on don in the south, Moscow in the middle, and Leningrad in the North by winter (historical progress?)
Key is to pocket and overrun enemies - the soviets retreat slower than you advance somehow. Use bombers to speed up the process. I destroyed no less than 100 divisions and now roughly 30 divisions are pocketed by me. Intelligence show that they have 295 divisions when war started now they have 176, which a large number of them aren't going to matter very soon anyway as I am forming another pocket in the south which would have an insane amount (I guess like 30 something) of divisions in it.
Now I outnumber the Soviets in all places except around the pocket - I am waiting to starve them out. The Finns somehow don't want to join the war - weird. Else I'll have Leningrad by now.
My strike force is 182 divisions (most are infantry/mountain troops, only like 6 mot and 6 arm, you don't need a lot of tanks anyway) + 3 in Norway waiting for Finns to join the war (damn...quick!), I have a substantial amount of troops guarding West Europe (30 divisions) though Britain is defeated in 1940, the funny thing is that Britain got annexed by Canada and now I am trying to sink the rest of Canada's fleet which includes 5 battleships.... (rest are destroyed by my navy, Bismarck ftw)
Airforce consist of 8 CAS wings, 12 Tactical bomber wings, and ~20 intercept fighter wings (somehow I forgot to bring in 8 of them eek just realized). They do help a lot.
This is the initial force setup (before the invasion), you could almost guess which provinces I am going to attack.
it is not yet won (the war), but I guess unless something drastic happens I'm going to win... (though I found my troops in the north are running out of steam org wise - a dangerous sign, I need to keep pushing ...) I am planning on reaching Rostov on don in the south, Moscow in the middle, and Leningrad in the North by winter (historical progress?)
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Slightly faster than historical, and you've destroyed more divisions, proportionally, so definitely a lot more decisive. A Red Army with 295 divisions won't even have the 6 million men the Germans captured in '41. In the center you already have some territory the real Germans never took. You've won.
Also, how the hell do you manage to keep your army upgraded and large? I'm playing a somewhat buffed Germany that would have about 420 effective IC out of that 270, and I have 94 inf, 11 arm, 11 mot, 7 mtn, 2 par, 7 cavalry and a lot of garrisons and militias. Most of my units are badly out of date, including some 1926 infantry, and a pretty powerful Kriegsmarine with 3 Bismarck class BBs that has won a few engagements against the RN, as well as 30+ submarines that have almost finished with the UK's convoy train and were cca. 50 when I started the convoy raiding. Air force is about 12 each INT, CAS and TAC, 2 TRA and I think 8 or 9 multi-role.
I do have a lot of brigades, including (very rough numbers!) 60 arty, 30 ac, 60 police, 20 buffed AA (as in they really hurt when the enemy bombs them), 15 L-A, some engineers and TD. I'm also full central planning, but that's only 1.56* the upgrade cost from the starting slider position.
I saved the game in may '41 just after taking the Barbarossa decision. Romania and Hungary both have more well-upgraded units than me, all '39 infantry, though their cavalry is badly out of date.
Also, how the hell do you manage to keep your army upgraded and large? I'm playing a somewhat buffed Germany that would have about 420 effective IC out of that 270, and I have 94 inf, 11 arm, 11 mot, 7 mtn, 2 par, 7 cavalry and a lot of garrisons and militias. Most of my units are badly out of date, including some 1926 infantry, and a pretty powerful Kriegsmarine with 3 Bismarck class BBs that has won a few engagements against the RN, as well as 30+ submarines that have almost finished with the UK's convoy train and were cca. 50 when I started the convoy raiding. Air force is about 12 each INT, CAS and TAC, 2 TRA and I think 8 or 9 multi-role.
I do have a lot of brigades, including (very rough numbers!) 60 arty, 30 ac, 60 police, 20 buffed AA (as in they really hurt when the enemy bombs them), 15 L-A, some engineers and TD. I'm also full central planning, but that's only 1.56* the upgrade cost from the starting slider position.
I saved the game in may '41 just after taking the Barbarossa decision. Romania and Hungary both have more well-upgraded units than me, all '39 infantry, though their cavalry is badly out of date.
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a lot of my troops are still 1921 infantries, especially those guarding west Europe, my "elite" troops are no more than a mix of 1921 infantry, 1926 infantry, 1931 infantry, 1936 infantry, and some 1939 infantries. I still use pz38(t) for my armored divisions (though the newer ones are pzIII). I still fly some biplanes lol.
out of date units doesn't really matter- they perform almost as good as new ones in most circumstances.
I have 2 serials of int-fighters since the beginning. (never canceled) A serial of CAS (7 of them). Later in 1938 I started a serial of 5 tactical bomber wings. I didn't start building armoured divisions until late 1938 (when I got those precious Czech IC).
I have like 6 serials of infantry from the beginning of the game and later made it 10. I never build any CAV and even stupidly disbanded one of them (should have kept it for anti-partisan duties...)
I also made serials of artillery and ACs(cancelled in 1941 as they are fuel hogging)
a small trick to save IC is to build naval brigades separately (torpedoes such stuffs). The effect is hardly notice-able but maybe that helps a bit. I didn't build any more industry as they pay back pretty slowly. (But what I want is BLITZKRIEG!!!)
I kept 2 serial runs of subs early on and added one more later (now I canceled two of them coz I don't need to hide anymore), I love the two battlecruisers and the two BBs I built (but one got sunk by the RN... but that is worth it), one high-scoring CA is the Prinz Eugen which sunk a lot of enemy ships. The RN is reduced to 5 BBs and 10 destroyer-kind of stuff now (controlled by the canadians).
I could post my initial build if you would like to see.
out of date units doesn't really matter- they perform almost as good as new ones in most circumstances.
I have 2 serials of int-fighters since the beginning. (never canceled) A serial of CAS (7 of them). Later in 1938 I started a serial of 5 tactical bomber wings. I didn't start building armoured divisions until late 1938 (when I got those precious Czech IC).
I have like 6 serials of infantry from the beginning of the game and later made it 10. I never build any CAV and even stupidly disbanded one of them (should have kept it for anti-partisan duties...)
I also made serials of artillery and ACs(cancelled in 1941 as they are fuel hogging)
a small trick to save IC is to build naval brigades separately (torpedoes such stuffs). The effect is hardly notice-able but maybe that helps a bit. I didn't build any more industry as they pay back pretty slowly. (But what I want is BLITZKRIEG!!!)
I kept 2 serial runs of subs early on and added one more later (now I canceled two of them coz I don't need to hide anymore), I love the two battlecruisers and the two BBs I built (but one got sunk by the RN... but that is worth it), one high-scoring CA is the Prinz Eugen which sunk a lot of enemy ships. The RN is reduced to 5 BBs and 10 destroyer-kind of stuff now (controlled by the canadians).
I could post my initial build if you would like to see.
No need, I've realized some of my mistakes, and as I've said, in my personal mod Germany has a lot more IC whether I play it or the AI, though mp is the same. I even managed to go into Poland with 24 manpower left before mobilizing. Maybe I overdid it a little bit, but the AI needs it dearly. I still had a few 1921 infantry units as well, in Von Runstedt's I.Armeekorps no less. I'll still build a lot of subs because they're ridiculously cheap, and they can sink battleships too 
I do suppose building tanks and cavalry from 1936 is a big no-no because the upgrade step from '36 to '39 cav is huge at full central planning and tanks are always expensive to keep and upgrade.
Also I think I deserve a Darwin Award for the amount of AA (again, my AA brigades HURT) and ART I've attached to garrisons.
Didn't know that the proper way to build naval bde's is NOT with the ship, though. I always started the Bismark, Tirpitz and Friedrich with 3 bde's each, the small ships with S-FC, and the submarines with torps attached. Well, off to add 14 militia names for the 100 quota in unitnames.csv.
I do suppose building tanks and cavalry from 1936 is a big no-no because the upgrade step from '36 to '39 cav is huge at full central planning and tanks are always expensive to keep and upgrade.
Also I think I deserve a Darwin Award for the amount of AA (again, my AA brigades HURT) and ART I've attached to garrisons.
Didn't know that the proper way to build naval bde's is NOT with the ship, though. I always started the Bismark, Tirpitz and Friedrich with 3 bde's each, the small ships with S-FC, and the submarines with torps attached. Well, off to add 14 militia names for the 100 quota in unitnames.csv.
Just go to the brigade building section you'll be able to find it. It is a little bit cheaper to manually build them and attach.
I found ACs pretty good as they increase org and other fighting capabilities - downside is that they are expensive to maintain. I didn't build much AA brigades as I prefer to fly planes instead. I fit ACs to my armoured divisions.
small ships are just cannonfodders (but in combat they rarely got sunk though... I lost 1BB 2 CA fighting the RN but hardly any destroyers) that I don't even care to fit brigades to them (except that long serial of torpedoes).
I run out of MP pretty quickly that I have to extend service in the very beginning (and cancel some dissent with rheinland decision). And I enact partial mobilization in 1938... and general mob in sept 1939 (when I DOW poland - gotta make use of the war propaganda decision)
I found ACs pretty good as they increase org and other fighting capabilities - downside is that they are expensive to maintain. I didn't build much AA brigades as I prefer to fly planes instead. I fit ACs to my armoured divisions.
small ships are just cannonfodders (but in combat they rarely got sunk though... I lost 1BB 2 CA fighting the RN but hardly any destroyers) that I don't even care to fit brigades to them (except that long serial of torpedoes).
I run out of MP pretty quickly that I have to extend service in the very beginning (and cancel some dissent with rheinland decision). And I enact partial mobilization in 1938... and general mob in sept 1939 (when I DOW poland - gotta make use of the war propaganda decision)
These are cheaper only if you account faster gearing bonus accumulation when build in serials. Otherwise the IC cost (in IC days) of building Unit A + Brigade B together should be equal to building both independently.
hmm, when building a torpedo for a BB that takes 1400 days it increase cost by 0.1, yet a single torpedo brigade cost 0.2 but far fewer days to complete (< 700).
I was going to tell martin the same thing. The price isn't the issue as much as how long you pay it.
Seriously,I won Barbarossa in less than 3 months.... the Soviets set up a last ditch of determined defense near Moscow but they're crushed completely (actually I am surprised by my progress...). By September 11th the Soviets surrendered with less than 40 divisions left. Later in 1944 I invade the US and Canada - initially they gave me pretty some good fights but like 40 US divisions are eliminated in the decisive battle for New York City and they never have any more chance to recover...
Conclusion, Soviets aren't OP in DH (1941). Btw, the AI is pretty good but still of course have no idea about huge pockets (they do try hard to prevent getting pocketed), similar to that of WIF mod AI. Still, that is a staggering 250+ divisions killed in 3 months...
Conclusion, Soviets aren't OP in DH (1941). Btw, the AI is pretty good but still of course have no idea about huge pockets (they do try hard to prevent getting pocketed), similar to that of WIF mod AI. Still, that is a staggering 250+ divisions killed in 3 months...