Soviet menace

[Simoleum]

In my game in HoI3 (playing as a warm up to IV), Soviet attacked me in my war against Yugoslavia and Greece. Is a Soviet attack of Germany (when Germany is at war, and not attacking Soviet) inevitable in HoIV? Due to the immense forces that eventually will come down on Germany, it wouldnt surprise me if the AI will declare war.

 

[mdw1985]

In my game in HoI3 (playing as a warm up to IV), Soviet attacked me in my war against Yugoslavia and Greece. Is a Soviet attack of Germany (when Germany is at war, and not attacking Soviet) inevitable in HoIV? Due to the immense forces that eventually will come down on Germany, it wouldnt surprise me if the AI will declare war.

This is why I always left my main forces in the East

 

[agentgb]

It's practically scripted in hoi3, after seeing poland give up danzig in todays livestream, anythings possible, somthing that you can't do in hoi3, only being possible if you annex it while world tensions were low enough.

I use to exploit world tension by attacking poland first, romania 2nd without starting ww2, then build up infrasture early for an attack on russia, knowing that i can start the war at anytime by annexing austria and knocking out the cezh soon after while having a front with france and bringing italy in, thats pretty much how ww2 starts for me in hoi3.

 

[scroggin]

It's practically scripted in hoi3, after seeing poland give up danzig in todays livestream, anythings possible, somthing that you can't do in hoi3, only being possible if you annex it while world tensions were low enough.

I use to exploit world tension by attacking poland first, romania 2nd without starting ww2, then build up infrasture early for an attack on russia, knowing that i can start the war at anytime by annexing austria and knocking out the cezh soon after while having a front with france and bringing italy in, thats pretty much how ww2 starts for me in hoi3.

Now thats an interesting strategy to use....... Must try it one day.

Edit; did the UK and France declare war on you or just the USSR?

 

[Asfifldjarfi]

I think the A.I. actually doesn't make attacks that are to stupid, and they seem to know a lot more about strength comparisons than you do.

I once played Germany, don't remember if HoI2 or DH or HoI3, but I was a bit spooked of the Soviets, and didn't attack them, neither did they attack me, eventually, Italy forced my hand by declaring war, and turns out... they were completely right, I steamrolled them.

Then I was playing the Soviets(in DH) and claimed Bessarabia, and Romania refused(the nerve) so I attacked them, while Germany was busy in France, and puppeted them. Same with Finland(since I had already angered the Germans considerably), and well... I gave up on waiting for the Germans to attack in the year 1946, and pre-emptied them.

 

[Aries666]

In HOI3 both GB and SOV will declare war on GER eventually. GB pretty much as soon as their neutrality is < your threat value, so if you go ahistoric and annex eastern Europe early by war not decision this will result in a GB declaration, similarly if you go SOV first GB will declare on you as soon as they can. SOV will declare on you as soon as they have a favourable troop ratio on the eastern front or as soon as you take London, the latter seems to apply to any axis country (I once took London as Italy and SOV declared on GER).

My main hope for HOI4 is that war decs are a little more fluid and tied to whether the AI thinks it can win. I also really want to see the AI managing to get the war going even if scripted events are interrupted.

 

[agentgb]

Now thats an interesting strategy to use....... Must try it one day.

Edit; did the UK and France declare war on you or just the USSR?

france & uk will declare war on you, USSR it's a bit harder, they have a modifier that forces them to build a certain ratio of troops compared to germany on a border before they can declare war i think, but has time goes on that modifier will come done making it more likely, but Germany can declare war at anytime. So your have plenty of time to drive back from romania, diplo anex austria & 'maybe' the ceczh if you can fine tune the world tension, and be in postion to take france.

The trick to world tension is to do alot with minimal forces, the more troops you build, it increases world tension, if you plop them down, even more so, if you build them as reserves thats cheaper on world tension, the same with techs too, certain tech focused toward arms focused techs will increase world tension, thats the only place you want to be bleeding world tension.

So build your reserves to hold a line againt the french over a due course time, don't plop them down until last min when your forces are coming back from romania it may be cheaper to build planes world tension wise also not sure, but a focus on an army never hurts, although not sure how its calculated, if by IC cost with military units increases world tension, since building factories won't.

I can't remember, but i think it may even be possible to have your cake and eat it, i am sure i also diplo annexed apart fo cezh, and the diplo austria annexation was the final straw for war, or vice versa, so i think it possible to squeeze either austria or half of czechoslovakia in the peace in our time deal. But you need to nail poland before britain can proclaim a guarantee, so you need to get spies in there building world tension, along with romania, and then if you must speed it up by plopping down some divisions, so your beat the brits to poland, it easier then im making it out to be. Theres a rough date that britain will place there guarantee, so until then, you need to force world tension up with poland, so perhaps it may be better to plop down a few full divisions just to grab poland quickly,

also dragging countries into your faction will increase world tensions, so it may be worth inviting them in last minute, or to purposely increase your world tension.

Also so you get your rightful lands in poland with less revolt, check your add war goals, i can't remember, but i think if you add your rightful lands, danzig, then later annexation, i 'think you get the best of both worlds, same with cechs perhaps, unless some war goals just overwrite others. although not sure