Soviet Industrial Focus Question

[AscendedAlteran]

I've noticed that in the posts talking about min maxing soviet industry and taking the five-year plan focuses they take the left path to Industrial Modernization. this is mainly I think for the consumer goods reduction, understandably.

what I would like to understand is outside CG reduction is the benefits still better with modernization vs optimize production lines? I instinctively want to remove maluses and so that 10% production growth malus is bothering me plus when added to the other growth malus in defensive industry seems too painful. maybe it shouldn't and isn’t really that important. I just want to better understand which bonuses I need to care about more.



Optimize Production Lines gives

Reduces growth malus by 5 for a total from -15 to -5

Base efficiency increase by 5

And factory output by 2

Whereas industrial modernization

keeps growth malus at -10

while increasing retention by 10%

and increasing max efficiency by 5%

 

[flashbax]

Note that even the left-hand path will leave you with a net debuff to consumer goods, because starting the 3rd FYP at all gives you +5%. The main thing this path has going for it are the blueprints, so the left side is better. But since you can easily get these from espionage, I maintain that you're better off picking other foci and never starting the 3rd plan.

 

[shadowpho]

Note that even the left-hand path will leave you with a net debuff to consumer goods, because starting the 3rd FYP at all gives you +5%. The main thing this path has going for it are the blueprints, so the left side is better. But since you can easily get these from espionage, I maintain that you're better off picking other foci and never starting the 3rd plan.

IMHO the espionage is broken and more of an exploit sadly.

but yeah the whole 5yr plan is …. Weird

 

[AscendedAlteran]

i guess I'm also trying to better understand production trade offs: factory output vs base vs growth vs retention. should i worry about the production growth malus imposed by the five year plan? if i should, then that probably means i should avoid the defensive industry focuses

the wiki is limited or confusing where production growth malus are concerned. the growth is the answer to the equations. unfortunately math is something i'm terrible at.