Southern Revolutions Mod for V:R

[CSABadass]

That'd be a good move.. maybe a post-war disarmament settlement/Washington Treaty style event could massively increase the cost of having units, and could switch AI files to a slightly differing post-war model which emphasises their need to disband stuff or go bankrupt?

There's no way to mod suddenly increased unit cost, and there are already postwar AI files in the game which are relatively more pacifist.

Thanks for the suggestions, gentlemen. This event would take a lot of doing, but I'll see what I can do.

In the meantime, I was really looking for more Southern cultural events for the flavor file. Sure, Jack Daniel's, Coke, and William Faulkner are achievement enough for one country, but I still have the nagging feeling I'm missing some other things that show just how lovably eccentric the South really was (and is).

Whatever the topic, though, all suggestions re: SR are gratefully received, so thanks in advance!

 

[HMS Enterprize]

Something to do with assimlation of various indian tribes?

Im on a thinking quest now!

 

[unmerged(19063)]

In the meantime, I was really looking for more Southern cultural events for the flavor file. Sure, Jack Daniel's, Coke, and William Faulkner are achievement enough for one country, but I still have the nagging feeling I'm missing some other things that show just how lovably eccentric the South really was (and is).

A "Hey y'all, watch this!" event that damages a factory?

 

[CSABadass]

A "Hey y'all, watch this!" event that damages a factory?

Yes! It could replace the current nonsensical "Chinatown Fire" event!

 

[HMS Enterprize]

A bit contreversial perhaps but depending on when emancipation comes, perhaps Nathan Bedford Forrest might start up the clan...and how the South deals with it...torn perhaps between supporting a CS hero and the govenment.

I dunno...perhaps a bit too much?...but certainly a very southern cultural phenomenon.

 

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A bit contreversial perhaps but depending on when emancipation comes, perhaps Nathan Bedford Forrest might start up the clan...and how the South deals with it...torn perhaps between supporting a CS hero and the govenment.

I dunno...perhaps a bit too much?...but certainly a very southern cultural phenomenon.

Along those lines, are reactionary parties separate from fascist? Might have the Battle Flag be used for a Reactionary CSA.

Also I still kinda like the idea of a Southern Civil War involving Texas (mostly since they're a ready-made revolter). Not quite sure where to go with it. Maybe a post-Great War situation, or during, if the Great War drags on and on with no end in sight?

 

[HMS Enterprize]

Along those lines, are reactionary parties separate from fascist? Might have the Battle Flag be used for a Reactionary CSA.

Also I still kinda like the idea of a Southern Civil War involving Texas (mostly since they're a ready-made revolter). Not quite sure where to go with it. Maybe a post-Great War situation, or during, if the Great War drags on and on with no end in sight?

Certainly regarding Texas. In McKantor's book, one of the first things Texas does is secede from the CSA (a tad unrealistic if you ask me but there you go) so it certainly has precedent in fiction.

@CSA

How about the London Armoury Company? A big supplier of weapons for the South during the CW. If the CS won the company might open a factory in the CSA...

A counterfactual event as such, but might be ok for flavour.

1889 Formation of United Confederate Veterans. Make take on a different 'mission' being on the winning side (but then the USA had the GAR and they won in OTL). And then the United Daughters in 1894.

 

[CSABadass]

A bit contreversial perhaps but depending on when emancipation comes, perhaps Nathan Bedford Forrest might start up the clan...and how the South deals with it...torn perhaps between supporting a CS hero and the govenment.

I dunno...perhaps a bit too much?...but certainly a very southern cultural phenomenon.

Once CSA Emancipation happens, there's a pretty sizable increase in the Dixie culture's consciousness and militancy. While the Klan is certainly a part of real Southern history, would there be more of a backlash than what the events already depict in a victorious CSA? Myself, I think not, but I'm willing to hear dissenting views.

 

[CSABadass]

How about the London Armoury Company? A big supplier of weapons for the South during the CW. If the CS won the company might open a factory in the CSA...

A counterfactual event as such, but might be ok for flavour.

1889 Formation of United Confederate Veterans. Make take on a different 'mission' being on the winning side (but then the USA had the GAR and they won in OTL). And then the United Daughters in 1894.

London Armoury, makers of my own beloved Enfield musket. That has potential.

Love the UCV idea, too--thanks for the suggestions!

 

[HMS Enterprize]

Once CSA Emancipation happens, there's a pretty sizable increase in the Dixie culture's consciousness and militancy. While the Klan is certainly apart of real Southern history, would there be more of a backlash than what the events already depict in a victorious CSA? Myself, I think not, but I'm willing to hear dissenting views.

Its a grey area to be sure (excuse the pun). Perhaps it may form if blacks are given ful citizenship instead of residence...I dunno, might be tricky to realistically incorporate. I read on wikipedia that a group in Texas alegedly formed before the clan (Knights of Golden Circle or something). Perhaps do something with that.

 

[CSABadass]

Its a grey area to be sure (excuse the pun). Perhaps it may form if blacks are given ful citizenship instead of residence...I dunno, might be tricky to realistically incorporate. I read on wikipedia that a group in Texas alegedly formed before the clan (Knights of Golden Circle or something). Perhaps do something with that.

Ah yes, I used them as villains in two of my alt-history books.

The KOGC was a conspiracy group dedicated to Southern dominance of the Mexico and Caribbean, making the region a "golden circle" of slave power. Since events already push the CSA into Mexico and into war with Spain for Cuba & Puerto Rico, I don't know how an expanded presence for them would change things much, especially after emancipation.

 

[semihippie]

Is there a flavor event for Mark Twain? If not, he deserves one.

 

[ComteDeMeighan]

Hey man just want to say this is a great mod I played it last night and had a most enjoyable evening. Its 1864 I've lost the transmississippi but am holding the deep south I can't believe I"ve lasted this long. I love the new events and the unit names and the improved leaders. I just have two complaints which are kinda minor. The Lincoln assassination event happened before the 1864 election is this supposed to happen? Also I got two Mexican states before I got independence shouldn't this happen after I gain independence? If I'm following the whole Turtledove timeline which I'm guessing your partly basing your timeline on. But anyway other than these two minor things I love your work man Thank you for making this mod

 

[CSABadass]

Hey man just want to say this is a great mod I played it last night and had a most enjoyable evening. Its 1864 I've lost the transmississippi but am holding the deep south I can't believe I"ve lasted this long. I love the new events and the unit names and the improved leaders. I just have two complaints which are kinda minor. The Lincoln assassination event happened before the 1864 election is this supposed to happen? Also I got two Mexican states before I got independence shouldn't this happen after I gain independence? If I'm following the whole Turtledove timeline which I'm guessing your partly basing your timeline on. But anyway other than these two minor things I love your work man Thank you for making this mod

You're very welcome!

The Lincoln Assassination event is the same as in vanilla V:R. I'll give the triggers a look and see if it needs to be modded.

As for Mexico, I assume you're referring to the Nueva Leon event. That is WAD, as it based on the timing of an actual historical event.

Glad you're enjoying the mod!

 

[Jingles]

Well when I heard about this mod I rushed to download it this morning. Wording of the installation was kinda confusing for computer noobs like me. So I added the mod to my active mods. Loaded up the game. Look at my demographics as CSA. There is not a single African Minor POP. I have some Dixie Communist Slaves, but that's about it. Is this WAD?

 

[CSABadass]

Well when I heard about this mod I rushed to download it this morning. Wording of the installation was kinda confusing for computer noobs like me. So I added the mod to my active mods. Loaded up the game. Look at my demographics as CSA. There is not a single African Minor POP. I have some Dixie Communist Slaves, but that's about it. Is this WAD?

Yes. They don't become African Minor POPs until (and if) one of the CSA Emancipation event fires, and you opt to free the slaves. Once freed, they become African Minor POPs.

 

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I keep losing badly. If I try fighting defensively, then Yanks sit patiently until '63-ish, then swamp me. If I try fighting offensively, Sharpsburg lasts for a year (even with 60K Dixies under Lee vs 20K Yanks under Nobody), while the 100K Stacks of Doom curbstomp the paltry forces I have in the West.

*rips hair out* What am I doing wrong?

 

[CSABadass]

I keep losing badly. If I try fighting defensively, then Yanks sit patiently until '63-ish, then swamp me. If I try fighting offensively, Sharpsburg lasts for a year (even with 60K Dixies under Lee vs 20K Yanks under Nobody), while the 100K Stacks of Doom curbstomp the paltry forces I have in the West.

*rips hair out* What am I doing wrong?

Go back to reply #142 in this thread and you'll find links to some CSA strategy hints, including my very own special recipe for deep-fried Yankee-whuppin'. Like a fifth of Jack Daniel's, those should get you where you wanna go.

 

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Go back to reply #142 in this thread and you'll find links to some CSA strategy hints, including my very own special recipe for deep-fried Yankee-whuppin'. Like a fifth of Jack Daniel's, those should get you where you wanna go.

Wow. Crushed the Yankees in May of '62.

Kickass.

 

[CSABadass]

Wow. Crushed the Yankees in May of '62.

Kickass.

Congrats! Hope the rest of SR is as rewarding.