South America

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Here is where we will have ALL Information about South America, including Events, Leaders/Ministers, etc.

I've decided that regional threads (Like CORE has), is a good idea, and shall be implemented now. I will soon post more details

 

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I'm wondering will all the south american nations be in the game(I know the central american ones won't) or are we going to join some of the smaller ones like Paraguay and Uruguay. Besides please tell me that you are including Cuba as an independant nation, that nation is perfect for a lot events.

 

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Originally posted by Corvuz_Crovax
I'm wondering will all the south american nations be in the game(I know the central american ones won't) or are we going to join some of the smaller ones like Paraguay and Uruguay. Besides please tell me that you are including Cuba as an independant nation, that nation is perfect for a lot events.

All of the South American nations ARE going to be in the game, and Cuba is independent. Cent. Amer. is NOT going to be in the game, though.

 

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What are you doing with Centeral America, who gets the land?

 

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Actually, we might be doing Central America. The Carribean (with exception to Cuba) will not be done however.

 

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Originally posted by Lunar
Actually, we might be doing Central America. The Carribean (with exception to Cuba) will not be done however.

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Hmm, Central America has no importance, even Saharan Africa is more important fo' an MDS scenario than Cent Amer.

 

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Actually I would prefer to keep Central America Because of possible side wars in the region and more importantly because I would like to keep the empty arias to a minimum on the map. Since we don't have enough tags Sub Saharan Africa can go but as I said before that yields up like 20 new tags, more than enough to fill in other blank spots on the map and still allow new nations like Tibet and Palestine. As such I would like to keep Central America in first to limit the empty arias in other arias of the map and also because I wouldn't know what to do with the extra tags.

 

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Originally posted by Buke
Actually I would prefer to keep Central America Because of possible side wars in the region and more importantly because I would like to keep the empty arias to a minimum on the map. Since we don't have enough tags Sub Saharan Africa can go but as I said before that yields up like 20 new tags, more than enough to fill in other blank spots on the map and still allow new nations like Tibet and Palestine. As such I would like to keep Central America in first to limit the empty arias in other arias of the map and also because I wouldn't know what to do with the extra tags.

Ok, your right. As long as we can get the theoretical countries Lunar and I wanted, and as long as we can get the Pacific and asian nations, then Cent Amer could be good to say

 

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What about an event that causes a civil war to start between a south american country and one of the countless south american marxist guerilla groups. Eventually the revolters could seize control of the country. It could then spread the rebellion to its capitalist neighbours and we could have a huge war in south america. It's not very unrealistic since almost all countries in this part of the world have well established leftish guerilla movements and lots of poor people. Also a revolution of this kind might get support from China as they would have similar ideologies and as the commie takeover of south america would be an extra thorn in the side of usa in the event of war with china.

 

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We'd like some kind of war over there. Hopefully someone from South America could help us out on the specifics!

 

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In my country description *for Argentina* I forgot to mention the election where Kirchner rose to power. Maybe someone could make a trigger where you choose between:

Nestor Kirchner or Carlos Saul Menem (cause those were the two leading choices, Menem dropped out cause it was an estimated 70% for Kirchner and 30% for him, having Kirchner elected would've made him the highest elected candidate in Argentine history.)

I don't know what kind of ministers you'd have for Kirchner, I'd have to look it up, but I know Menem would have a couple of Crooked Kleptocrats and the ones that lower your ICs.(Peso-Dollar 1 to 1, my ass..)

Edit: Also, a possible event with Menem to hand over the South of Argentina to Chile. He was going to do that, sadly. (Of course, he didn't say anything.)

And a flood there was in Santa Fe, you could represent it in Cordoba, since there's no Santa Fe in HoI, that would lower the infrastructure to 10 or something. (That happened in around May, the early days.)

 

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Thanks Herr Neko, I'll see if I can try and implement your suggestions

 

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There is also the plan for the 6000 houses Kirchner made around a couple of weeks ago. And today I heard on the radio they were retaking the Condor-2 project, a missile capable of going 12km upwards, dunno the range exactly.

 

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I suppose we can do something like this:

1) Venzuela gets a socialist/communist coup. USA withdraws their ambassador.

2) FARC requests assistance, Colombia warns Venzuela, Venzuela agrees anyway (countries after a coup tend to have ideological proponents instead of realists).

3) Colombia declares war on Venzuela. Colombia expects to slaughter Venzuela due to being about twice Venzuela in terms of GDP and population.

4) Venzuela, seeing the situation, basically offers oil in exchange for military assistance.

5) The main European contries, needing oil, decide to go with this great deal. They get a small IC boost and a large oil boost while Venzuela gets supplies and perhaps 1 armor, and 2 infantry divisions (?).

6) Stalemate war until one side wins. Perhaps one or both of the sides after a victory would try to recreate a Grand Colombia, not sure.

 

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Perfect idea, good job Lunar!

 

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awsome, but what will be done with brazil and argentina? unless i missed it

 

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awsome, but what will be done with brazil and argentina? unless i missed it

I don't think they will do anything, unless some way dragged into the war or if a human player does something.

 

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Brazilian Navy:

Aircraft Carriers:
SAO PAULO-Class:
A12 Sao Paulo

Frigates:
SAO PAULO-Class:
A12 Sao Paulo

GREENGALGH-Class:
F46 Greengalgh
F47 Dodsworth
F48 Bosisio
F49 Rademaker

PARA-Class:
D27 Para
D28 Paraiba
D29 Parana
D30 Pernambuco

NITEROI-Class (modernized):
F43 Liberal
F42 Constitucao (in overhaul)

NITEROI-Class:
F40 Niteroi
F41 Defensora
F44 Independencia
F45 Uniao

BARROSO-Class:
V34 Barroso (building - 2006)

INHAUMA-Class:
V30 Inhauma
V31 Jaceguay
V32 Julio de Noronha
V33 Frontin

Submarines:
TIKUNA-Class:
S34 Tikuna (building - 2005)

TUPI-Class:
S30 Tupi
S31 Tamoio
S32 Timbira
S33 Tapajo

Amphibious Ships:
CEARA-Class:
G30 Ceara
G31 Rio de Janeiro

MATTOSO MAIA-Class:
G28 Mattoso Maia

DUQUE DE CAXIA-Class:
G26 Duque de Caxia

Minesweepers:
ARATU-Class:
M15 Aratu
M16 Antatomirim
M17 Atalaia
M18 Aracatuba
M19 Abrolhos
M20 Albardao


Argentinian Navy:

Destroyers:
HERCULES-Class:
D1 Hercules

Frigates:
ALMIRANTE BROWN-Class:
D10 Almirante Brown
D11 La Argentina
D12 Heroina
D13 Sarandi

ESPORA-Class:
P41 Espora
P42 Rosales
P43 Spiro
P44 Parker
P45 Robinson
P46 Gomez Roca

DRUMMOND-Class (large corvettes):
P31 Drummond
P32 Guerrico
P33 Granville

Submarines:
SANTA CRUZ-Class:
S41 Santa Cruz
S42 San Juan

SALTA-Class:
S31 Salta

Missile Boats:
INTREPIDA-Class:
P85 Intrepida
P86 Indomita

Minehunters:
CHACO-Class:
M5 Chaco
M6 Formosa

Amphibious Ships:
CANAL BEAGLE-Class:
B3 Canal de Beagle
B4 Bahia San Blas
B5 Cabo de Hornos



Chilean Navy:

Destroyers:
BLANCO ENCALADA-Class:
D15 Blanco Encalada
D12 Cochrane

Frigates:
CONDELL-Class:
PF06 Condell
PF07 Lynch
PF08 Ministro Zenteno

Submarines:
O'HIGGINS-Class:
Liberator O'Higgins (building - 2005)
General Carrera (ordered - 2007)

O'BRIEN-Class:
S22 O'Brien

THOMPSON-Class:
S20 Thompson
S21 Simpson

Amphibious Ships:
VALDIVIA-Class:
93 Valdivia

MAIPO-Class:
R92 Rancagua
R95 Chacabuco

OROMPELLO-Class:
AP94 Orompello
AP95 Elicura

Missile Boats:
CASMA-Class:
LM30 Casma
LM31 Chipana
LM33 Angamos

GUARDIMARINA-Class:
LM36 Guardimariuna Riquelme
LM37 Tentiene Orella
LM38 Tentiene Serrano
LM39 Tentiene Uribe

IQUIQUE-Class:
LM32 Iquique
LM33 Covadonga



Colombian Navy:

Frigates:
ALMIRANTE PADILLA-Class:
FM51 Almirante Padilla
FM52 Caldas
FM53 Antioquia
FM54 Independencia

Submarines:
PIJAO-Class:
S28 Pijao
S29 Tayrona

INTREPIDO-Class:
S20 Intrepido
S21 Indomable

 

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Thank you. I'll have to update the names some time!

 

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Meko 360

The argentinian Almirante Brown class ships are destroyers (MEKO 360) And there is another Hercules class, the S. Trinidad (wich was modified to carry and disembark troops, but keeps most the weapons)