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What causes South Africa to consistantly counter any autonomy I put on it? I've got every single country as an Integrated Puppet except this one that stays as a Dominion?
 

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Probably their multiple fascist/anti-imperialist focuses, and even advisers and things I think. They sometime go full-on fascist and have a civil war.
 

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A good tip in case anyone who reads this hasn't found it yet is to lend lease in bulk your old planes, even pre '36. You can get one or two hundred points deduction for some Pre-War fighters, and any obsolete planes produced during the war - plus, of course, it will help them in war if they're somewhere vulnerable (Raj, for example)
 

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A good tip in case anyone who reads this hasn't found it yet is to lend lease in bulk your old planes, even pre '36. You can get one or two hundred points deduction for some Pre-War fighters, and any obsolete planes produced during the war - plus, of course, it will help them in war if they're somewhere vulnerable (Raj, for example)

I find that the Starting Royal Navy is perfectly capable of handling and containing Germany and Italy. With this in mind I found the most effective method of pushing all to integrated puppets as early as possible is to put all dockyards on convoys and to pump out nonstop convoys to each subject 1 at a time till they are Integrated. The reason I care about integrated more than annex is that the AI's do not declare upon british subjects so you can keep all your subjects safe as Integrated and even benefit from their industry and resources. The only issue is having a large enough navy to spread out towards Raj and Malaya to cover convoy damage there. They even pump out divisions and hand them to you even though they are not at war with the axis.

You can even reverse back the convoys back to you later on once you start suppressing subjects so those prebuilt convoys help during the war when Japan's chewing on your rubber convoys from Malaysia.

Do not create the additional subjects till you have unlocked suppression of subjects focus. Once that unlocks release any and all provinces as you can to subjects and suppress them all. All of the subjects remain neutral in the war as long as you don't call them in manually(dont check call allies when declaring and dont let them join wars).
 
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With this in mind I found the most effective method of pushing all to integrated puppets as early as possible is to put all dockyards on convoys and to pump out nonstop convoys to each subject 1 at a time till they are Integrated.
A very good idea, but if Japan attack as well you might be shorthanded for ships.
 

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A very good idea, but if Japan attack as well you might be shorthanded for ships.

Its not risky at all. Japan just takes Hongkong and the islands north of NZ. They falter cause they can't declare on Malaysia, Australia, nz, or Raj since the AI already weighs the war against UK and USSR as heavy so they dont justify wargoals after that. They don't even touch Sri Lanka. The downside is that the Mediterranean stays open to all cause Egypt stays out of the war and the Suez remains passible cause of that.
 

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Its not risky at all. Japan just takes Hongkong and the islands north of NZ. They falter cause they can't declare on Malaysia, Australia, nz, or Raj since the AI already weighs the war against UK and USSR as heavy so they dont justify wargoals after that. They don't even touch Sri Lanka. The downside is that the Mediterranean stays open to all cause Egypt stays out of the war and the Suez remains passible cause of that.
I see, fair enough. But won't Suez close because, you control Egypt, rather than a puppet?
 

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I see, fair enough. But won't Suez close because, you control Egypt, rather than a puppet?

You release egypt cause its far more efficient to have an integrated puppet than colony states at war when the land is spread across the globe. And dont call them into wars. But don't release them till you unlock suppress subjects. or right before the war is set to pop up.
 

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You release egypt cause its far more efficient to have an integrated puppet than colony states at war when the land is spread across the globe. And dont call them into wars. But don't release them till you unlock suppress subjects. or right before the war is set to pop up.
Is it more efficient? It seems to me that it's the same as just having them as annexed but without their factories.
 

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Is it more efficient? It seems to me that it's the same as just having them as annexed but without their factories.

They release halfway to integrated. Once integrated you get 75% of their military factories, 25% of civ factories, and 90% of manpower modifier. But the most important part is that italy never attacks them and the land sits dormant, pumping out your equipment.
 

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Is it more efficient? It seems to me that it's the same as just having them as annexed but without their factories.

Egypt has exactly one civ factory at the start, very noticeable when going for "Freegypt". You're not losing a lot to release them and there are some nice benefits to it (you even get 20M puppet manpower, though it's doubtful UK needs it since they have India), though if you want to 1-tag a UK run releasing a bunch of puppets makes the PP cost too high to annex them all.