Sort of comprehensive guide to wonders

[treb]

If you are like me and an indecisive, week willed milksop who can decide weather Constantinople needs more walls(preferably funded by Latins to keep out Latins)or a university to teach them desert hillbillies in Baghdad what real scholarship looks like! Or weather a great (and ostentatious) mosque to Allah's glory in Cordoba that just happens to have 3 more minarets than the biggest Abbasid mosque... Or why worry over them treasonous usurping dogs? Why not relax in the Andalusian sun? Looking over you new and definitely bestest Caliphate from the balcony of your just completed grand Palace?

Well worry no more! Im here to read though paradox's dense coding and lazily cheat in game to test stuff!

Spoiler: Base Works

Cathedral/mosque/synagogue/Hindu temples

stage 1: 0.05 prestige monthly, 0.1 Piety monthly
stage 2: 0.1 prestige monthly, 0.2 Piety monthly
stage 3: 0.1 prestige monthly, 0.2 Piety monthly
stage 4: 0.2 prestige monthly, 0.2 Piety monthly


Hindu/Pagan/Buddhist temples

stage 1: 0.1 prestige monthly
stage 2: 0.2 prestige monthly
stage 3: 0.2 prestige monthly, 0.1 Piety monthly
stage 4: 0.3 prestige monthly, 0.1 Piety monthly


Statues:statues come in 2 flavors

Statue of You

stage 1: 0.1 prestige monthly, -0.005 revolt risk(local)
stage 2: 0.2 prestige monthly, -0.005 revolt risk(local)
stage 3: 0.3 prestige monthly, -0.005 revolt risk(local)
stage 4: 0.3 prestige monthly, -0.005 revolt risk(local) , -1 short reign length

Statue of Your horse(What did you expect from paradox, really )

stage 1: 0.1 prestige monthly
stage 2: 0.1 prestige monthly
stage 3: 0.1 prestige monthly
stage 4: 0.1 prestige monthly, +10 opinion for horses

Fortress

stage 1: 0.1 prestige monthly, +0.25 fort level(local)
stage 2: 0.1 prestige monthly, +0.25 fort level(local)
stage 3: 0.1 prestige monthly, +0.25 fort level(local) +0.05 Siege defense (local)
stage 4: 0.1 prestige monthly, +0.5 fort level(local) +0.05 Siege defense (local)

Underground city

stage 1: 0.1 prestige monthly
stage 2: 0.1 prestige monthly
stage 3: 0.1 prestige monthly, +0.05 Siege defense (local)
stage 4: 0.1 prestige monthly, +0.05 Siege defense (local)

Walls

stage 1: 0.1 prestige monthly, +0.25 fort level(local)
stage 2: 0.1 prestige monthly, +0.25 fort level(local)
stage 3: 0.1 prestige monthly, +0.25 fort level(local) +0.05 Siege defense (local)
stage 4: 0.1 prestige monthly, +0.5 fort level(local) +0.05 Siege defense (local)

Harbor

stage 1: 0.1 prestige monthly, +0.025 local tax, +25 trade value(local)
stage 2: 0.1 prestige monthly, +0.025 local tax, +25 trade value(local)
stage 3: 0.1 prestige monthly, +0.025 local tax, +25 trade value(local)
stage 4: 0.1 prestige monthly, -0.05 build cost +0.025 local tax, +25 trade value(local)

Lighthouse:

stage 1: 0.1 prestige monthly,
stage 2: 0.1 prestige monthly,
stage 3: 0.2 prestige monthly, +0.05 local tax
stage 4: 0.3 prestige monthly, +0.1 local tax +50 trade value(local) (I think this must be a typo in the code the usual pattern is 0.01 not 0.1. Abuse it while you can )

Amphitheater

stage 1: 0.1 prestige monthly, -0.01 revolt risk(local)
stage 2: 0.1 prestige monthly, -0.01 revolt risk(local)
stage 3: 0.1 prestige monthly, -0.01 revolt risk(local)
stage 4: 0.1 prestige monthly, -0.01 revolt risk(local) same religion opinion 1

Palace

stage 1: 0.1 prestige monthly, 250 retinue size
stage 2: 0.1 prestige monthly, 250 retinue size
stage 3: 0.1 prestige monthly, 250 retinue size
stage 4: 0.1 prestige monthly, 20% increase to retinue size?(retinuesize_perc = 0.2 in the file) +0.03 land moral

Gardens

stage 1: 0.1 prestige monthly, 0.025 disease resistance(local)
stage 2: 0.1 prestige monthly, 0.025 disease resistance(local)
stage 3: 0.1 prestige monthly, 0.025 disease resistance(local)
stage 4: 0.1 prestige monthly, 0.025 disease resistance(local) +0.2 health

University

stage 1: 0.1 prestige monthly, +0.05 culture techpoints
stage 2: 0.1 prestige monthly, +0.05 culture techpoints
stage 3: 0.1 prestige monthly, +0.05 culture techpoints
stage 4: 0.1 prestige monthly, +0.05 culture techpoints +0.02 economic techpoints +0.02 military techpoints

Library

stage 1: 0.1 prestige monthly, +0.05 culture techpoints
stage 2: 0.2 prestige monthly, +0.05 culture techpoints
stage 3: 0.3 prestige monthly, +0.05 culture tech growth
stage 4: 0.4 prestige monthly, +0.05 economy tech growth, +0.05 military tech growth (yes it does lack culture for some reason)

Mausoleum

stage 1: 0.1 prestige monthly, -0.0025 revolt risk(local)
stage 2: 0.2 prestige monthly, -0.0025 revolt risk(local)
stage 3: 0.3 prestige monthly, -0.0025 revolt risk(local)
stage 4: 0.4 prestige monthly, -0.0025 revolt risk(local)

Pyramids (also come in 2 flavors)

Egyptian Pyramid

stage 1: 0.2 prestige monthly
stage 2: 0.2 prestige monthly
stage 3: 0.3 prestige monthly, -0.005 revolt risk(local)
stage 4: 0.3 prestige monthly, -0.005 revolt risk(local) , +2 same religion opinion

Aztec Pyramid

stage 1: 0.1 prestige monthly
stage 2: 0.2 prestige monthly
stage 3: 0.2 prestige monthly, 0.1 Piety monthly
stage 4: 0.2 prestige monthly, 0.2 Piety monthly

Stone circle

stage 1: 0.1 prestige monthly, 0.05 Piety monthly
stage 2: 0.1 prestige monthly, 0.1 Piety monthly
stage 3: 0.1 prestige monthly, 0.2 Piety monthly
stage 4: 0.2 prestige monthly, 0.2 Piety monthly +2 same religion opinion


#Historic Wonders#

Giza Pyramids

stage 1: 0.1 prestige monthly
stage 2: 0.1 prestige monthly
stage 3: 0.1 prestige monthly
stage 4: 0.1 prestige monthly

Stonehenge

stage 1: 0.1 prestige monthly
stage 2: 0.1 prestige monthly
stage 3: 0.1 prestige monthly
stage 4: 0.1 prestige monthly

Mausoleum of Halicanassus

stage 1: 0.1 prestige monthly
stage 2: 0.2 prestige monthly
stage 3: 0.3 prestige monthly
stage 4: 0.4 prestige monthly

Great Lighthouse of Alexandria

stage 1: 0.1 prestige monthly
stage 2: 0.1 prestige monthly
stage 3: 0.2 prestige monthly, +1 local tax
stage 4: 0.3 prestige monthly, +1 local tax +0.1 trade route value

Konark temple

stage 1: 0.05 prestige monthly, 0.1 Piety monthly
stage 2: 0.05 prestige monthly, 0.2 Piety monthly
stage 3: 0.1 prestige monthly, 0.2 Piety monthly
stage 4: 0.1 prestige monthly, 0.3 Piety monthly

Apostolic Palace

stage 1: 0.1 prestige monthly
stage 2: 0.1 prestige monthly
stage 3: 0.1 prestige monthly
stage 4: 0.1 prestige monthly

House of Wisdom

stage 1: 0.1 prestige monthly, +0.05 culture techpoints
stage 2: 0.1 prestige monthly, +0.05 culture techpoints
stage 3: 0.1 prestige monthly, +0.05 culture techpoints
stage 4: 0.1 prestige monthly, +0.05 culture techpoints

Petra

stage 1: 0.1 prestige monthly
stage 2: 0.1 prestige monthly
stage 3: 0.1 prestige monthly
stage 4: 0.1 prestige monthly

Each wonder gets 8 upgrade slots, you get a choice between a number of unique upgrades and a set of generic

Spoiler: Generic Upgrades

Roads

+0.1 local movement speed

Watchtowers

+0.1 local levy size

Spikes

+0.05 local siege defense
Allows you to channel the spirit of the as yet unborn Vlad the Impaler and kill people by... impaling them.

Tower

+0.05 local siege defense
+0.02 monthly prestige

Hypercausts

+0.01 local disease resistance
+0.02 monthly prestige

Heating

+0.02 local disease resistance
+0.02 monthly prestige

Guardhouse

+0.1 local garrison size
+1 local supply limit
+0.05 land organization

Torture chamber

Lets you take your your 'beloved friends' on a very detailed and long tour of your VERY extensive collection of devices expressly designed to cause excruciating pain...(intimidate)

Lets you use said VERY extensive collection of devices expressly designed to cause excruciating pain on your 'beloved friends' when they make the erudite decision to launch a rebellion against you that was doomed to fail from the start...(execution)

Brewery

+10 dunkard opinion

Unlocks a diplomatic option to send people booze!

Vinyard

+10 dunkard opinion

Unlocks a diplomatic option to send people booze!

Mural

+3 same dynasty opinion

Tool booths

+0.05 local tax

Tavern

+5 drunkard opinion

Can sometimes remove stressed. Unless your a zealous Muslim.

Spoiler: Cathedrals

Gargoylers

+5 cruel opinion
You can intimidate people with them
They can somehow kill people for you!

Bells

+0.1 local siege defense

Stained glass window

+5 church vassal opinion

Relic tomb

+0.25 monthly prestige

Basilica

+5 city vassal opinion

Catacombs

+0.05 monthly piety
+0.1 local siege defense

Giant Cross

+2 Christian opinion

Golden bells

+5 Proud opinion you showoff!

Spoiler: Mosques

Minaret

+2 Muslim opinion
Lets you convert provinces faster

Open Courtyard

+0.05 local disease resistance

Qubba

+5 vassal mosque holder opinion

Fancy lamps
+2 Muslim opinion

Soup Kitchen

+0.0025 local disease resistance
-0.05 local revolt risk
+5 kind opinion

School

-0.01 local revolt risk
5 + Scholar opinion

Hostel

+0.05 monthly piety

Custodian of the mosque

Gives you another minor title to never hand out

Spoiler: Pagan Temple

Statue of god

+0.05 monthly piety

Temple Guards

-0.1 local revolt risk

Sacrifical altar(requires has_religion_feature = religion_ritual_sacrifice )

-0.1 local revolt risk
+5 zealous opinion! Nothing shows your devotion to the gods like slitting an innocent animals throat or pulling the still beating heart out of a dude, if your into that I guess?

Sacred Grove

+0.04 monthly piety

Prophesy rooms

+5 zealous opinion

Temple Precinct

+2 same religion opinion

Inner Sanctuary(pagans only)

-0.05 local revolt risk

Custodians of the temple

Gives you another minor title to never hand out

Spoiler: Buddhist Temples

Chaitya Grihas

-0.04 local revolt risk

Gompa

+0.1 local siege defense

Bhodi Tree

+5 Buddhist opinion

Caves

+0.1 local siege defense

Vihara

+0.05 local disease resistance

School

-0.01 local revolt risk
5 + Scholar opinion

Votive Stupa

+0.10 local tax

Relic Stupa

+0.25 monthly piety

Commemorative Stupa

+2 Indian opinion

Symbolic stupa

+3 buddhist opinion

Spoiler: Synagogue

Tallest Building

+0.05 monthly prestige
+0.01 land moral

Outer Garden

+0.1 land organisation

Holy Ark

+5 Vassal Synagogue opinion

Decorations

Jewish opinion +2

Choir rooms

+0.05 monthly prestige
+0.05 monthly piety

School

-0.01 local revolt risk
5 + Scholar opinion
Culture conversion bonus

Spoiler: Hindu Temple

Gopura

+0.1 local siege defense
+2 hindu opinion

Shikara

-0.02 local revolt risk
Lets you convert provinces faster

Mandapa

-0.01 local revolt risk
+0.01 land organization

School

-0.01 local revolt risk
5 + Scholar opinion
Culture conversion bonus

Hospital

+0.05 local disease resistance
+0.05 monthly piety

Spoiler: University

Seminar Hall

Can hold lectures
3 + Scholar opinion
+5 City Vassal opinion
+0.1 Tech Growth

Diplomatic wing

+0.005 culture tech

Military wing

+0.005 military tech

Economic wing

+0.005 economy tech

Espionage wing

+0.005 culture tech

Scholarship wing

+0.05 Tech Growth

Guardian of Knowledge

Gives you another minor title to never hand out

Spoiler: Statues

Bronze Plating

0.1 prestige monthly

Silver Plating

0.2 prestige monthly

Gold Plating

0.3 prestige monthly

Statues of Family

+ 3 Dynasty opinion

Gold Crown

+3 Vassal opinion

Watcher of Giants

minor title

###Horse Statue###

Bronze Plating

0.1 prestige monthly

Silver Plating

0.2 prestige monthly

Gold Plating

0.3 prestige monthly

Stable

+0.05 cavalry
+0.05 Archers

Animal Statues

+ 5 kind opinion

Spoiler: Harbors

Cothon

+0.10 local siege defense
+0.5 local supply limit

Piers

+30 trade value
+0.25 local supply limit
+0.0025 local tax

Harbor Office

+0.1 local tax
+0.25 local supply limit

Lighthouse

+30 local tradepower
+0.05 local tax
+0.25 local supply limit

Military Wharf

+0.5 Galleys Perc
+0.15 Siege Speed

Master of the Tides

Gives you another minor title to never hand out

Spoiler: Lighthouses

Treasure Chamber

lower chance of artifacts being looted

Giant Banners

+0.05 local Land modifier

Custodian of the Lighthouse

Gives you another minor title to never hand out

Royal Apartments

+ 3 sex appeal

Spoiler: Mausoleum

Statues of the Dead

dynasty_opinion = 3

Eternal flame

-0.05 local revolt risk
+5 Zunist opinion

Unmarked Tombs

+0.1 Assassination success
Intimidation

Quadriga

+0.05 prestige monthly

Keeper of the Dead

Gives you another minor title to never hand out

Spoiler: Amphitheater

Naval Spectacle

+0.025 local tax
+0.1 prestige monthly

Animal Cages

+0.1 prestige monthly
+5 hunter opinion

Hippodrome/Circus

+0.05 cavalry

Training Academy

Allows you to summon a warrior every year or so

Theater Stage

monthly_character_prestige = 0.05
+5 poet opinion

Master of the Games

Gives you another minor title to never hand out

Spoiler: Garden

Fountains

+0.05 prestige monthly
+5 Poet opinion

Fountain of Youth

requires supernatural events and mystic

Hanging Gardens

+ 0.1 prestige monthly
+5 Gardener opinion

Secluded groves

+0.05 fertility

Hidden Burial Area

+0.05 defensive plot power
+0.05 plot power

Poisonous Flowers

+0.05 Plot power

Herb Garden

+0.1 health
Periodically gives you herbs (Hermetic artifact)

Statues Garden

+0.05 prestige monthly
+0.05 defensive plot power

Pet Graveyard

+5 child opinion

Spoiler: Fortress

Armory

+100 heavy infantry

Watch Tower

+0.05 arrest chance
+0.05 local siege defense

Vault

Less lightly to get artifacts looted

Moat pit

+0.05 local siege defense

spiky moat

+0.05 local siege defense
lets you intimidate and execute

water moat

+0.05 local siege defense
feed prisoners to the crocs!

Skull moat

+0.05 local siege defense
lets you intimidate and execute

Hidden Passageways

+0.05 assassination success chance
You can easily escape when your tyrannical dictatorship caves in. To Argentina!

Inner Garden

+0.1 land organization

Dueling room

+3 combat ability
+5 duelist opinion

Spoiler: Great Wall

Sea walls

+5 vassal town opinion
+0.2 local siege defense

Studded Bastions

+0.05 local siege defense
+200 archers

Strategic Exclaves

The God Emperor Trump himself descends from heavens himself and instantly upgrades every wall in every holding in the province you built the fortress to the maximum possible level! The Latins and Turk's aint getting into Constantinople this time! The Townsfolk rejoice!
+5 vassal town opinion
+0.05 local tax

Soaring Fortresses

Gives you another minor title to never hand out
+0.05 local siege defense
+100 Heavy Infantry

Hidden Gates

+0.1 local siege defense
better rolls on siege events as a defender

Gatehouse-Forts

+0.05 local siege defense
+150 archers

Staged Killing Fields

+100 archers
+0.1 local siege defense

Deep Defense Architecture

+0.1 local siege defense

Artificial Islands

+0.1 local siege defense

Wall Walker

Gives you another minor title to never hand out

Spoiler: Underground City

Dungeon

+0.05 arrest chance

Natural Caves

+0.05 defensive plot power

Travel Tunnels

+0.1 local movement speed

Precious metal mine

+0.1 local tax

Guardian of The Deep

Dwarfiest of Dwaven titles only give to Dwarfs

Spoiler: Imperial Palace

Fancy Throne Room

0.05 prestige monthly

Trap Door

+0.05 arrest chance

Royal bed chamber

+0.05 fertility

Skull Throne(requires you to become a champion of Khorne killing 100 people)

+20 cruel opinion

Golden throne

1.0 prestige monthly
does NOT make you immortal!

Automata throne( requires roman government and/or 6 construction)

2.0 prestige monthly

Royal custodian

Give this title to your pet cat.

Spoiler: Stone Circles

Runestones

+3 dynasties

Stone custodian

Another title not a cool stone automaton sadly

More Stones

+2 same pagan opinion

Spoiler: Library

Poetry and Drama Collection

+0.05 culture tech

Architecture Collection

+0.05 economy tech

History Collection

+0.05 military tech

Natural Sciences Collection

+0.05 military tech

Math and Philosophy Collection

+0.05 economy tech

Scribe Room

+0.01 tech
0.1 prestige monthly

Keeper of Tomes

+0.005 culture tech
Another title for buddylove

Spoiler: Pyramids

Extra Pyramids

+3 dynasty opinion
0.05 prestige monthly

Mythological Beast

+2 same religion opinion

Hidden room

Less lightly to get artifacts looted

Necropolis

Less lightly to get artifacts looted(Considering Pyramids track record as tombs, I doubt this)

Traps

Has a high chance of killing members of the new court (Take that! Indie)

Limestone Casing

0.05 prestige monthly
0.01 piety monthly

Overseer of Rights

Gives you another minor title to never hand out

Spoiler: Boring math bits

Fully upgraded Garden with 8 heating pipes 1.7 gives disease defense and full upgraded hospital adds 0.45 disease defense totaling 2.15 disease defense.

With 1337 Constantinople as a base a fully upgraded wall going for max levies(province wall upgrades,towers killing fields gateforts bastions fortresses deep defense and watchtowers) gives you a Whopping +55% siege defense 450 archers 100 heavy infantry +10% levies(which stacks with all them nice big upgraded walls!) fort lvl 1.25 local tax +5% and +3 city opinion(useless as Byzantines you want to hold the cities yourself) at the end Constantinople alone had 13k demesne troops, and thats with once free shot and a city owed by genoa.

TL;DR:
BUILD! THE WALLS!

 

[BuddyLove]

Ah, I was hoping you had one!

 

[treb]

Ah, I was hoping you had one!

You know my motto is "we deliver"

 

[Caeserion]

One thing to add for the statues: You can only get one kind of plating so save up for the gold one.

 

[BuddyLove]

I love how many of these give minor titles to never Hand out!

Thanks, this is exactly what I've been hoping to see!

Harbor is looking like a real winner here. . .

 

[Xenrek]

is it me, or does Great Wall seem overrall better than fortress? what with several levy upgrades, where the fortress only has a single one?

 

[BuddyLove]

Do we know, we're any wonders based achievements added?

 

[BetrunkenerSeamus]

How can I start building a great wonder? I can't find a button or anything...

 

[Byzantium2000]

Immediately regrets building Ampitheather in Constantinople.

 

[Gunthah]

Automata throne( requires roman government and/or 6 construction)

2.0 prestige monthly

In my experience this doesn't seem to work. I have both Roman Imperial government and construction tech 6, but it doesn't show up.

 

[treb]

is it me, or does Great Wall seem overrall better than fortress? what with several levy upgrades, where the fortress only has a single one?

The reason walls outclass forts its the OP upgrade all holding walls to max upgrade, that increases levy caps across every holding in the province and paired with generic watchtowers for a further 10% the fort cant even begin to compete...

In my experience this doesn't seem to work. I have both Roman Imperial government and construction tech 6, but it doesn't show up.

I've noticed this to but I cant see anything in the code as to why it wont?

upgrade_automata_throne = { # Automata Throne
    picture = GFX_upgrade_icon_stones
    potential = {
        OR = {
            government = roman_imperial_government
            TECH_CONSTRUCTION = 6
        }
    }
    allow = {
       
    }
    active = { }

    flags = {
        valuable
    }
    build_time = 25
    gold_cost_flat = 1000
    gold_cost_ticking = 1
    owner_modifier = {
        monthly_character_prestige = 2
    }
}

 

[Gunthah]

cant see anything in the code as to why it wont?

Yeah. I checked it too, but it just won't appear for whatever reason.

Roads

+0.1 local movement speed

I love how the description text talks about "many well connected roads being made in the realm" and yet it amounts to spending hundreds of gold on getting one or two days off in the rare event that your army passes by that exact province.

 

[treb]

Yeah. I checked it too, but it just won't appear for whatever reason.



I love how the description text talks about "many well connected roads being made in the realm" and yet it amounts to spending hundreds of gold on getting one or two days off in the rare event that your army passes by that exact province.

Roads are stackable giving a possible +0.8 speed boost but it still is only one province. I cant see it being feasible to spam wonders to create a road network.

The great garden roadways of the roman empire

 

[Kurblius]

Thank you soo soo much for this, I've been waiting for this! Some quick observations: Harbour>Lighthouse, Great Wall>Fortress, and the Automata Throne for the Byzantines is pretty sweet. I wonder if it comes with events that highlight the musical birds and the moving throne.

Wait: So does the amphitheatre not have any special add-on features?

Edit 2: Also, did you make a mistake with the University? I think it's supposed to be +1 attribute not tech points, otherwise it would be identical to the library. Or am I wrong?

 

[treb]

Thank you soo soo much for this, I've been waiting for this! Some quick observations: Harbour>Lighthouse, Great Wall>Fortress, and the Automata Throne for the Byzantines is pretty sweet. I wonder if it comes with events that highlight the musical birds and the moving throne.

Wait: So does the amphitheatre not have any special add-on features?

Sorry! Added

 

[Naughtius Maximus]

So does the library actually let you utilize more than four books (the current default post nerf.)

 

[afrodius]

Great info here, thank you for this!

 

[Kurblius]

So does the library actually let you utilize more than four books (the current default post nerf.)

Yeah I want to know this too.

 

[Rydelfox]

The reason walls outclass forts its the OP upgrade all holding walls to max upgrade, that increases levy caps across every holding in the province and paired with generic watchtowers for a further 10% the fort cant even begin to compete...



I've noticed this to but I cant see anything in the code as to why it wont?

upgrade_automata_throne = { # Automata Throne
    picture = GFX_upgrade_icon_stones
    potential = {
        OR = {
            government = roman_imperial_government
            TECH_CONSTRUCTION = 6
        }
    }
    allow = {
      
    }
    active = { }

    flags = {
        valuable
    }
    build_time = 25
    gold_cost_flat = 1000
    gold_cost_ticking = 1
    owner_modifier = {
        monthly_character_prestige = 2
    }
}

government can only be used in a character scope, but TECH_CONSTRUCTION can only be used in a province scope. It should be:

OR = {
   government = roman_imperial_government
   FROMFROMFROM = { TECH_CONSTRUCTION = 6 }
}

 

[treb]

Ive been looking through events related to wonders and insofar there is an event chain to rediscover a lost classical work for libraries, an event for various wonders that lets you take people to a secluded area( like the garden grove and fort tunnels) to talk, kill or shag them. An option in certain wonders (I'm assuming Cathedrals and mausoleums at least) to bury you dead predecessor there. An event about storing artifact in certain wonders. Events involving looting them for cash and artifacts. A town event that opens an additional building shot if possible, an event involving the library letting you write a better book, drinking from the fountain of youth(removes 2 years of age) and a number of events concerning maintenance.

Also the automata throne is a throne that adjusts its height!

upgrade_automata_throne_desc;By some complex machinery this throne can raise itself up and down at will.