Soooo...

[grommile]

I'm Poland. The Ottomans declared war on me. It's 1525, I have MIL 11, everyone else on my side has MIL 10, the Ottomans have MIL 10.

They have Quantity ideas and the money to use them, letting them field over 120 regiments.

I have 52. Lithuania has 22, and Moldavia has 8. My ally Austria has 26 regiments (they lost the emperorship to Bohemia).

Bohemia (Emperor), France, and Muscovy have all named me their rival.

By feeding the Ottomans Moldavia, I can make them go away immediately, but common sense tells me they'll be back one truce timer later if I do that.

 

[Sian]

can you beat up Bohemia or Muscovy if you get Ottomans to go away, and see if you can find more allies (Castile/Spain should be a reasonable deterrent)?

 

[grommile]

can you beat up Bohemia or Muscovy if you get Ottomans to go away,

Yes, but that doesn't solve the problem that my southern enemy has a much bigger army and manpower pool than I do.

and see if you can find more allies (Castile/Spain should be a reasonable deterrent)?

Castile barely exists, and Aragon is in PU under Naples (not quite clear why) with Ottos supporting their independence.

 

[gia257]

dont fight in the farmlands, austro hungary has mountain forts, use them, set your juniors to attach to you

try to get austria to attach as well, but otherwise keep track of them and support if they engage in good terrain, otherwise allow them to let the months run, might get a white peace in 5 years

with your healthy mass troops see if you can scare smaller stacks of ottomans at -7% - 14% of a siege

invest in papal controller, might get a crusade

 

[Gans]

I would feed them with so many non-co belligerent Austria land they get coalitioned. Provided Austra actually got border with Ottomans ofc...

 

[grommile]

I would feed them with so many non-co belligerent Austria land they get coalitioned. Provided Austra actually got border with Ottomans ofc...

Austria doesn't have a border with Ottos, sadly; they didn't get the PU over Hungary, have generally derped around, and managed to be a bit more aggressive within the empire than was entirely healthy for an Emperor (hence Bohemia becoming Emperor instead).

My border with Ottos is in Hungary (I grabbed Slovakia, Ottos grabbed central Hungary), and since I'm not a fanatical demolitionist that means I've got the mountain fort in Trencin and the highland fort in Zemplen. Sadly, though, the Ottos first choice of forts to siege are Tirgoviste and Bessarabia, both of which are flat.

 

[gia257]

hopefully you built forts on lwow/halicz and mazyr, bryanks/kaluga in preparation, i mean you know you are going to fight them sooner or later, and youll have to be on the defensive if you dont grow faster than them, the polish-turk border is easy, for both sides, if you had the forces they'd lose through that very same area

Since austria is smaller I was hoping they'd go for them, but if they go through lit, and they have no forts as usual, then youll be using a lot of diplo on WE. Also if austria didnt have hungary you should have allied bohemia when they became emperor (or france or whoever is actually not losing)

Try to find some small stack so you can test combat ability, maybe you crush them and are only scared of their numbers, you only need to reach constantinople to get the war done, an if you can push through there it forces them to head for the mountains

 

[Jorlaan]

I'm in a similar situation in my Poland game. Made Lithuania eat the Livonian order (forgot to pull Riga in to the last war and now I'll have to either no-CB or wait for integration), I ate the Teutons and I managed to snag 4 provinces in the Novgorod area.
Problem is Bohemia hates me, as do the Ottos, Muscovite's, Danes and Mamluks, although the Mams are not a threat they still won't accept mutual protection against mutual enemies, despite the fact that the AI countries are doing that with each other against me. Ottos and Muscovy are allies, even though Ottos annexed Crimea less than 60 years in to the game and have pushed in to normal Muscovite expansion area, something that would GUARANTEE to piss off Muscovy if the PLAYER were Ottos...
Ottos also allied Bohemia, who is also allied to Muscovy, who is also allied to...gah it goes on. All my major enemies are allied to at least 1 major enemy, but they're all in an ally circle I'm having a hell of a time breaking.
Austria is my ally, they got the Hungarian PU and have lost 2 wars vs Ottos already without me, before we allied.
I'll keep going, taking whatever opportunities present themselves. The Ottos already have 120k MP in mid 1500's, I have roughly 38k. I'll be taking quantity as my next idea probably, already have admin and influence, I'll need it just for the MP.
Sweden tried breaking free of Denmark but lost somehow, even with Denmark being nearly 100% occupied and Sweden only losing their capitol a couple months before it ended. Now they're loyal.