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I vote in favour of the plan to retake Somerset, and against the plan to relinquish it unfought.

Do all of you Conservatives drink the same tainted water? We already fought for the blasted territory and lost! It is not dishonorable to plan to fight another day, and it is not honorable to commit thousands of dead Germans to no good end.

Hermann von Leute

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The new foreign ministry plan is approved, 352 votes to 135. Diplomats have been dispatched to London, conceding the war.

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((Assuming another dozen things don't happen that require votes, I should be able to play and update tonight!))
 

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This is a disgrace. I only hope that the cowards who decided to give up without hesitation do not ever meet any Germans from Plymouth, for it might be very hard for them to justify their unpatriotic actions whilst being beaten with clubs.

~ K. F. von Hohenzollern
 

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((So, I finished playing the update [finally!], but I won't get a chance to post it tonight. Tomorrow is possible, but Thursday is the most likely candidate.

BTW, does a country automatically surrender at 100% war score in Vicky 2? I can't remember if they do or not. I know they do in CK2 and [I think] EUIV.))
 
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((I think it does. I'm not 100% certain.))
 

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((So, I finished playing the update [finally!], but I won't get a chance to post it tonight. Tomorrow is possible, but Thursday is the most likely candidate.

BTW, does a country automatically surrender at 100% war score in Vicky 2? I can't remember if they do or not. I know they do in CK2 and [I think] EUIV.))

((as I vaguely remember, the 100% loser will give up up to 100 points of war demands, but not more than that -- often to the disappointment of lesser coalition partners))
 

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((Slight delay in the update, probably coming tomorrow or this weekend.))
 

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1894-95: The Great War, part 1

Germany was fighting for her life in a way that she had not been in years. The British Empire, France, the Byzantine Empire, and a number of other countries were battling for European and, indeed, global supremacy. To counteract Germany's enemies, Minister of War Konrad von Schwaben called for a significant expansion of the German army: 156 brigades, or almost 500,000 troops. Fifteen new ships were also laid down, including five battleships. However, with the German militia slow to reach recruitment centers, the immediate concern was simply holding defensive positions until a counterattack could be planned. The British had no such problem, and quickly overran German positions in Africa.

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Harper native and Assemblyman Hermann von Leute was captured by the British and taken back to London. He alone cheered when a significant portion of the Royal Navy went to the bottom of the English Channel, and returned to Germany a couple of weeks later in exchange for a Royal Navy Captain. Over the course of July, German soldiers stood their ground and began pushing the French back into France, with the largest victory of the early war coming at Chalons. In the east, the Byzantines poured into southeastern Europe, easily driving out the forces sent to occupy the Balkans by Chief of the General Staff Konrad Friedrich von Hohenzollern.

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The French front settled into a real bloodletting. At the battle of Moulins, over 100,000 soldiers on both sides fell as casualties; there were roughly two German soldiers for every French soldier, but because the French left the field first, German newspapers called the battle a "Great Victory for the Great War," the first recorded use of the term "Great War". The average German did not share that position, as Minister of Finance Franz von Bavel-Timmermans announced a "war tax" for every German, rich and poor, with tax rates reaching 50% for the first time in years. In August, Foreign Minister Hubert Schaumberg issued an ultimatum to the French government, demanding a chunk of French territory in exchange for Germany ending the war. The French delegation simply laughed and returned to Paris.

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The Ministry of Education announced the first of many "victory initiatives," proclaiming that German metallurgists had developed a new, more powerful artillery barrel made out of steel. New metallurgical processes promised even greater results. These new weapons would not win the war in the immediate future, however; Africa was already a more or less lost cause, as the last few troops in Liberia surrendered to British troops. A lopsided victory at Orleans kept too much discontent from fostering in Germany proper, but in Bari, Italy, a group of Italian communists demonstrated against the futility of the war. Chairman of the KPD Clarissa Rafanelli denounced the communists as "traitors to the fatherland" and eagerly voted for the censure of those who had participated, as well as their expulsion from the party.

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After the French fortress at Orleans also fell, the Foreign Minister, in league with many of the most prominent Conservatives and Imperialists, proclaimed Germany's superiority from every rooftop. He added weightier demands for a French surrender, including Provence, and did not spare the Byzantines from their own share of the victory costs. When the people of Syria called for German help against Hedjaz, the vote to join the war was nearly unanimous. At first, only financial support trickled southeast, but the Chief of the General Staff promised to commit German troops when the French and British had surrendered. A victory at St. Etienne was quickly overcome by the announcement that Paris had fallen on November 18, 1894. Everything appeared to be going Germany's way, with some politicians speculating that Schaumberg, who had been the most vocal proponent of war with France, had earned himself a Chancellor's seat in the next general election.

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However, his political fortunes dissolved almost overnight. France did not surrender after the fall of Paris, which the Foreign Minister had confidently predicted. They kept fighting, inflicting serious casualties on German troops in France. Another victory at Orleans no longer had the same impact it once had, especially after the meat grinder of Clermont-Ferrand. Matters came to a head when a British delegation quietly demanded the return of Plymouth. Regardless of German success in Europe, British troops had taken every German post in Africa except Tunis and had held on to Plymouth for a few months. All of the most prominent German citizens had already evacuated, and a faction within the Reichstag began calling for an end to war with the British so that all of Germany's efforts could be turned toward winning the war against France. Hubert Schaumberg, President of Italy Karl Adimari, and the Chief of the General Staff all insisted on fighting to the bitter end, joined by the Imperialists. Hermann von Leute immediately called for a vote of no-confidence in the Foreign Minister. Surprisingly, Chancellor HF Gutfreund agreed with those who sought a brokered peace with the British. Stunned by what he called a "gross betrayal" and "cowardice, if not treason," the Foreign Minister had no choice but to change his position. Plymouth was surrendered to the British.

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Although the Foreign Minister retained his post, his popularity plummeted. As for the German military, the end of the war with the British permitted the entire German fleet to chase down the French fleet. In a series of battles, the French fleet was completely annihilated. The Ministry of War and MInistry of Education called a joint conference at the University of Nürnberg to announce the discovery of new and exciting techniques to further remove impurities from German metal, which promised to have a significant impact on the war effort and industrial production. The Commander of the Gendarmerie, Johannes Carile, called for a parade in honor of peace in the country's capital that eased the national mood. The Byzantines, however, chose that moment to initiate a fast and brutal offensive campaign that inflicted over 150,000 casualties in two battles, including the single biggest defeat in Germany's history. Throughout Champagne, French members of the KPD called for a general strike. Again, the Gendarmerie put down the uprising, but war weariness affected every single German throughout the country.

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Several battles waged on throughout the months; most were German victories of one kind or another, but no victory was achieved without cost. By summer of 1895, the Byzantines had been thoroughly blunted. Their formerly vast professional armies were whittled down by German peasants equipped with the finest weapons money could buy. The battle of Kustrin was a significant German victory, and the turning point of the campaign in the east. In October, a newspaper article accused Hubert Schaumberg of membership in a Masonic lodge. While some editorials leveled outrageous allegations, suggesting that the Foreign Minister had tried to fight on against the British because of the orders of his Masonic sect, most took no notice of the incident. However, when a member of the same lodge positively identified Schaumberg as a member, the public once again reacted. Even word that the Foreign Minister might be traveling to Rome sparked another uprising in Ravenna.

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As the Reichstag gathered for the January 1, 1896 session, a junior officer in the German Army prepared a presentation for the Chief of the General Staff. Despite the hardships that Germans had endured, victory was all but assured. Every French possession in Continental Europe belonged to Germany, while in the east, hundreds of thousands of German soldiers pushed east toward Constantinople. Ethiopia, with the British distraction out of the way, was making significant strides in Africa, too.

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Domestically, however, there was a clear sense that a massive uprising was long overdue. The "war tax" simply could not cover the German deficit. The war had already cost over £1 million, cutting the German treasury almost in half. Axel Wouters, the Minister of the Interior, gave clear instructions to prevent any other budgetary pressures, and ordered the Corps of Gendarmerie to take care of any disruptions. As a result, a huge number of unemployed Germans were arrested for disturbing the peace, as they had taken to demonstrating for unemployment insurance. The largest concentration of armed militants were socialists, but a disturbing number of Umbrians had started to question whether the deal with Italy would ever be completed, as they longed to join with their countrymen in Rome. A rapid conclusion to the war might heal several of these wounds, but Germany's allies insisted on punishing France's coalition to the point where France prefered complete destruction to surrender. Clearly, some sort of compromise was necessary: it was up to the Foreign Ministry and the Reichstag to provide it.

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((Sorry it took so long to get to this update! Note that the movement in the picture was suppressed after I took the screenshot, so the militant socialists might actually be even larger. I'm not sure.))

The Supreme Court invites legislation and proposals from any member of the Reichstag or the Cabinet. In particular, the German people are eager for social reform, the mission to Rome's status remains unresolved, and of course there are peace talks with France.

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((Can you make a list of all of our side's demands? Surely they must exceed 100% when combined.))

This past year the people of the Republic has shown the fortitude and courage that has allowed Germany to become the greatest nation on earth. Despite the death of hundreds of thousands of people and enemies all around us, the people of Germany rallied to defend democracy from her enemies. Thanks to the sacrifice of our citizenry, Germany has emerged triumphant, if bloodied. We must now craft a peace that allows the world to be safe for democracy.

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If the foreign minister will forgive the impudence, I would strongly suggest that the diplomatic corps be directed to isolate France by negotiating individual peaces with each of its allies, even at the cost of denying our allies some of their war aims. It is clear that the French imagine that they might still triumph by waiting for their friends to deliver them. This delusion must be broken with all possible speed.
 
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If the foreign minister will forgive the impudence, I would strongly suggest that the diplomatic corps be directed to isolate France by negotiating individual peaces with each of its allies, even at the cost of denying our allies some of their war aims. It is clear that the French imagine that they might still triumph by waiting for their friends to deliver them. This delusion must be broken with all possible speed.

The Ministry shall continue work on the Victory Initiatives I introduced when the war began. God willing, we will have no need of more by the next meeting of the Reichstag.

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I do not believe separate peaces would be possible

((You can't do separate peace in a Great War))
 

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((Can you make a list of all of our side's demands? Surely they must exceed 100% when combined.))

This past year the people of the Republic has shown the fortitude and courage that has allowed Germany to become the greatest nation on earth. Despite the death of hundreds of thousands of people and enemies all around us, the people of Germany rallied to defend democracy from her enemies. Thanks to the sacrifice of our citizenry, Germany has emerged triumphant, if bloodied. We must now craft a peace that allows the world to be safe for democracy.

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You act as this is some kind of great victory. Hundreds of thousands of germans dead, and for what? For a few lands in France that will inevitably rebel? This is no victory, it should be a time of mourning. The economy is in ruins, the people bleeding out in some french battlefield, that is no victory to me.
 

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I propose that we will instate unemployment subsidies, for our industry will not be able to employ the soldiers returning home after peace talks have been concluded, meaning many of our brave citizens will not be cared for after sacficing so much in this war.
 

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I propose that we will instate unemployment subsidies, for our industry will not be able to employ the soldiers returning home after peace talks have been concluded, meaning many of our brave citizens will not be cared for after sacficing so much in this war.
Our economy lies in ruins from the war and you want to spend even more money on unneeded subsidies ? I instead propose a temporary reversal of some granted subsidies and such so our economy can recover.

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Our economy lies in ruins from the war and you want to spend even more money on unneeded subsidies ? I instead propose a temporary reversal of some granted subsidies and such so our economy can recover.

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So you would let our people suffer!? My friend, the State does not exist to care for the economy, it exists to care for its citizens and protect them from harm, reversal of subsidies would lead to suffering across our great Republic. My friend, our people have fallen victim to a war that is not theirs, will you let them fall victim to an economy lead by greed rather than alturism even after the war has taken such a great toll on our people?
 

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So you would let our people suffer!? My friend, the State does not exist to care for the economy, it exists to care for its citizens and protect them from harm, reversal of subsidies would lead to suffering across our great Republic. My friend, our people have fallen victim to a war that is not theirs, will you let them fall victim to an economy lead by greed rather than alturism even after the war has taken such a great toll on our people?
I would rather have a portion of our population suffer now then our entire population when the economy collapses and a lot more people will be unemployed as our economy comes to a true, terrifying grinding halt. A policy of economic austerity and careful rebuilding is needed in this time, not unneeded spendings like the one you propose.
 

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Repealing subsidies and taking away the rights of the proletariat will only end in a revolution. But, you know, I won't impede the murderers from sealing their own fates.

- Rafanelli