LatinKaiser

Je me souviens des jours anciens et je pleure
51 Badges
Mar 29, 2014
1.638
2.364
  • Crusader Kings II: Holy Fury
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cossacks
  • Crusader Kings II: Horse Lords
  • Europa Universalis IV: Common Sense
  • Crusader Kings II: Way of Life
  • Europa Universalis IV: El Dorado
  • War of the Roses
  • Crusader Kings II: Conclave
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Victoria 2
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Stellaris
  • Europa Universalis IV: Dharma
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Expansion Pass
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Cadet
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cradle of Civilization
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Death or Dishonor
  • Crusader Kings II: Reapers Due
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rights of Man
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Together for Victory
  • Crusader Kings II: Monks and Mystics
  • Europa Universalis IV: Wealth of Nations
  • For the Motherland
  • Hearts of Iron III
  • March of the Eagles
  • Europa Universalis IV: Res Publica
  • Victoria 2: A House Divided
  • Victoria 2: Heart of Darkness
  • Europa Universalis IV: Conquest of Paradise
  • Europa Universalis IV: Art of War
  • Crusader Kings II: Rajas of India
  • Crusader Kings II: The Republic
  • Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Crusader Kings II: Charlemagne
  • Crusader Kings II: Sunset Invasion
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
  • Darkest Hour
  • Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods
  • Europa Universalis IV: Third Rome
Frau Viktor, do you not think it dangerous to allow the Italian government to have its own autonomous military? I see no reason to formally arm and train future rebels.

~ K.F. von Hohenzollern
 

DutchGuy

Swampman
57 Badges
Jan 19, 2013
1.064
65
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Victoria 2: A House Divided
  • Victoria 2: Heart of Darkness
  • Europa Universalis IV: El Dorado
  • Victoria 2
  • Crusader Kings II: Reapers Due
  • War of the Roses
  • 500k Club
  • Europa Universalis III: Collection
  • Europa Universalis IV: Dharma
  • Mount & Blade: Warband
  • Mount & Blade: With Fire and Sword
  • Crusader Kings II: Way of Life
  • Europa Universalis IV: Common Sense
  • Crusader Kings II: Horse Lords
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cossacks
  • Crusader Kings II: Conclave
  • Europa Universalis IV: Mare Nostrum
  • Stellaris
  • Stellaris: Galaxy Edition
  • Crusader Kings III
  • Surviving Mars: Digital Deluxe Edition
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cradle of Civilization
  • Surviving Mars
  • Imperator: Rome
  • Europa Universalis IV: Mandate of Heaven
  • Stellaris - Path to Destruction bundle
  • Crusader Kings II: Monks and Mystics
  • Stellaris: Leviathans Story Pack
  • Stellaris: Digital Anniversary Edition
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rights of Man
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Europa Universalis IV: Golden Century
  • Crusader Kings II: Holy Fury
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Victoria: Revolutions
  • Heir to the Throne
  • Divine Wind
  • Crusader Kings II: Charlemagne
  • Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome
  • Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods
  • Crusader Kings II: Rajas of India
  • Crusader Kings II: The Republic
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Crusader Kings II: Sunset Invasion
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
  • Darkest Hour
  • Europa Universalis III
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
The only failure the Reichstag has done in relation to the Italian Home Rule act is not go far enough! Therefore, I am proposing the following bills to the Reichstag, to rectify this gross insult to the Italian people!
The Italian Military Act:
1. The Italian President may petition the Italian Parliament for the creation of a regional army.
2. This regional army may only be recruited from the Region of Italy.
3. The budget for this army must be approved by both the Conclave and the Italian Parliament.
4. During peace, the Commander in Chief of this army will be the Italian President.
5. During times of War of Civil Unrest, the regional Italian Army will be integrated into the command structure of the Republic.

Italian Preservation Act
1. The Italian Home Rule act may only be removed with the consent of the Italian Parliament and Presidency.
2. Consent is determined by a vote in the Italian Parliament, wherein a 2/3rds majority as well as the Presidency approve of dissolving themselves.
"Insult to the Italian People"
Madam, you are an insult to the entire republic because of your ideology of blatant Italian superiorism .

Comrade Herzog Heinrich IV von Silesia-Glogau, Stadhalter of Breslau
 

Michaelangelo

Archaeopteryx
139 Badges
Feb 3, 2011
7.883
1.252
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • 500k Club
  • Stellaris: Nemesis
  • Stellaris: Necroids
  • Battle for Bosporus
  • Stellaris: Federations
  • Imperator: Rome Deluxe Edition
  • Hearts of Iron IV: La Resistance
  • Humble Paradox Bundle
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
  • Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome
  • Crusader Kings II: Sunset Invasion
  • Crusader Kings II: The Republic
  • Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Crusader Kings II: Rajas of India
  • Crusader Kings II: Charlemagne
  • Crusader Kings II: Way of Life
  • Crusader Kings II: Horse Lords
  • Crusader Kings II: Conclave
  • Crusader Kings II: Reapers Due
  • Crusader Kings II: Monks and Mystics
  • Crusader Kings II: Jade Dragon
  • Crusader Kings II: Holy Fury
  • Crusader Kings III: Royal Edition
  • Europa Universalis IV: Pre-order
  • Europa Universalis IV: Conquest of Paradise
  • Europa Universalis IV: Wealth of Nations
  • Europa Universalis IV: Res Publica
  • Europa Universalis IV: Art of War
  • Europa Universalis IV: El Dorado
  • Europa Universalis IV: Common Sense
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cossacks
  • Europa Universalis IV: Mare Nostrum
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rights of Man
  • Europa Universalis IV: Mandate of Heaven
  • Europa Universalis IV: Third Rome
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cradle of Civilization
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rule Britannia
  • Europa Universalis IV: Dharma
  • Europa Universalis IV: Golden Century
  • Europa Universalis 4: Emperor
  • Victoria 2
  • Victoria 2: A House Divided
  • Victoria 2: Heart of Darkness
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Colonel
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Together for Victory
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Death or Dishonor
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Expansion Pass
This constant demand for Italy to receive special privileges has quite frankly gone far enough. At this rate the next vote will be on complete independence after giving them both their own government and their own military if the recent bill passes. Why can these so-called Italians not accept that they are part of Germany and act as such? I understand that they feel neglected, but these efforts will just further separatist agendas. They should instead focus on furthering their agenda in the German government instead of trying to hide in their small corner of the country. As for the specific matter of giving them their own military, this will only cause great confusion for our armed forces during war and create an armed force not entirely taking orders from the German government. Why not seek a compromise and create a division of the army consisting mainly of Italians who serve in the region instead but still beholden to the Reichstag? Military matters should not be handled by anything less than the German government. Anything else is a security risk.

- Eva von Vandenburg
 

DutchGuy

Swampman
57 Badges
Jan 19, 2013
1.064
65
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Victoria 2: A House Divided
  • Victoria 2: Heart of Darkness
  • Europa Universalis IV: El Dorado
  • Victoria 2
  • Crusader Kings II: Reapers Due
  • War of the Roses
  • 500k Club
  • Europa Universalis III: Collection
  • Europa Universalis IV: Dharma
  • Mount & Blade: Warband
  • Mount & Blade: With Fire and Sword
  • Crusader Kings II: Way of Life
  • Europa Universalis IV: Common Sense
  • Crusader Kings II: Horse Lords
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cossacks
  • Crusader Kings II: Conclave
  • Europa Universalis IV: Mare Nostrum
  • Stellaris
  • Stellaris: Galaxy Edition
  • Crusader Kings III
  • Surviving Mars: Digital Deluxe Edition
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cradle of Civilization
  • Surviving Mars
  • Imperator: Rome
  • Europa Universalis IV: Mandate of Heaven
  • Stellaris - Path to Destruction bundle
  • Crusader Kings II: Monks and Mystics
  • Stellaris: Leviathans Story Pack
  • Stellaris: Digital Anniversary Edition
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rights of Man
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Europa Universalis IV: Golden Century
  • Crusader Kings II: Holy Fury
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Victoria: Revolutions
  • Heir to the Throne
  • Divine Wind
  • Crusader Kings II: Charlemagne
  • Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome
  • Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods
  • Crusader Kings II: Rajas of India
  • Crusader Kings II: The Republic
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Crusader Kings II: Sunset Invasion
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
  • Darkest Hour
  • Europa Universalis III
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
This constant demand for Italy to receive special privileges has quite frankly gone far enough. At this rate the next vote will be on complete independence after giving them both their own government and their own military if the recent bill passes. Why can these so-called Italians not accept that they are part of Germany and act as such? I understand that they feel neglected, but these efforts will just further separatist agendas. They should instead focus on furthering their agenda in the German government instead of trying to hide in their small corner of the country. As for the specific matter of giving them their own military, this will only cause great confusion for our armed forces during war and create an armed force not entirely taking orders from the German government. Why not seek a compromise and create a division of the army consisting mainly of Italians who serve in the region instead but still beholden to the Reichstag? Military matters should not be handled by anything less than the German government. Anything else is a security risk.

- Eva von Vandenburg
The current government is a fraud. These are nothing more then radical Lombard Nationalists that have taken controll of our government. They are using us to archieve their goal. A "Greater Italy with all German Lands from the Alps down... This is the second to last stage before they stage their coup and declare their independence.

Comrade Herzog Heinrich IV von Silesia-Glogau, Stadhalter of Breslau
 

Dr.Livingstone

Their Most Majestic and Royal Comrade
55 Badges
Jan 29, 2014
1.846
450
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Magicka
  • Europa Universalis IV: Res Publica
  • Victoria: Revolutions
  • Semper Fi
  • Sengoku
  • Victoria 2: A House Divided
  • Victoria 2: Heart of Darkness
  • Rome: Vae Victis
  • Crusader Kings II: Conclave
  • Cities: Skylines
  • Europa Universalis IV: El Dorado
  • Crusader Kings II: Way of Life
  • Europa Universalis IV: Common Sense
  • Crusader Kings II: Horse Lords
  • Crusader Kings II: Holy Fury
  • Stellaris
  • Hearts of Iron IV Sign-up
  • Stellaris Sign-up
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Cadet
  • Crusader Kings II: Reapers Due
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Together for Victory
  • Crusader Kings II: Monks and Mystics
  • Cities: Skylines - Parklife
  • Age of Wonders III
  • Cities: Skylines - Green Cities
  • Crusader Kings II: Jade Dragon
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Expansion Pass
  • Cities: Skylines - Parklife Pre-Order
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Prison Architect
  • Victoria 2
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Expansion Pass
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Hearts of Iron III Collection
  • Hearts of Iron III: Their Finest Hour
  • Hearts of Iron III
  • Crusader Kings II: Charlemagne
  • Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome
  • Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods
  • Crusader Kings II: Rajas of India
  • Crusader Kings II: The Republic
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
  • Darkest Hour
  • Europa Universalis III
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Europa Universalis IV: Art of War
  • Europa Universalis IV: Conquest of Paradise
Frau Viktor, do you not think it dangerous to allow the Italian government to have its own autonomous military? I see no reason to formally arm and train future rebels.

~ K.F. von Hohenzollern
No, in fact I do not think it is dangerous. The Italians will remain in brotherhood to the people of Germany, as long as we are able to stand equal to the German. As to formally training and arming rebels, well, if you see the entirety of the Italian people as rebels, then it is clear to me that you have no true brotherhood with any Italian.
Signora Victor
 

Sakura_F

Stadtholder of Turin
66 Badges
Apr 6, 2011
2.626
205
  • Victoria 2: A House Divided
  • Europa Universalis IV: Call to arms event
  • For the Motherland
  • Hearts of Iron III
  • Hearts of Iron III: Their Finest Hour
  • Heir to the Throne
  • Europa Universalis IV: Res Publica
  • Victoria: Revolutions
  • Semper Fi
  • Crusader Kings II: Charlemagne
  • Victoria 2: Heart of Darkness
  • Stellaris - Path to Destruction bundle
  • Europa Universalis IV: Pre-order
  • Crusader Kings II: Way of Life
  • Europa Universalis IV: Mare Nostrum
  • Crusader Kings II: Jade Dragon
  • Cities: Skylines - Natural Disasters
  • Crusader Kings II: Sunset Invasion
  • Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods
  • Crusader Kings II: Rajas of India
  • Crusader Kings II: The Republic
  • Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Darkest Hour
  • Europa Universalis III
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Europa Universalis IV: Wealth of Nations
  • Divine Wind
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Europa Universalis IV: Art of War
  • Europa Universalis IV: Conquest of Paradise
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Together for Victory
  • Crusader Kings II: Monks and Mystics
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rights of Man
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Colonel
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Cadet
  • Stellaris Sign-up
  • Hearts of Iron IV Sign-up
  • Stellaris
  • Crusader Kings II: Conclave
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cossacks
  • Battle for Bosporus
  • Europa Universalis IV: Common Sense
  • Victoria 2 Beta
  • Europa Universalis IV: El Dorado
  • 500k Club
  • Victoria 2
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
If the Italians continue to insist on these ridiculous schemes to further extract itself from Nürnberg, then perhaps the Italians are the ones who want for no brotherhood with the German. I would not be surprised to see the Italian members of the government are simply plotting to weaken the democracy and enhance the powers of their ethnic brethren at the expense of the German worker. It is astounding how you people keep being elected with your idiotic and nearly treasonous ideas.

The second bill proposed is outright a permanence of the Italian Parliament. What group would vote 75% to dissolve itself, and what man would willingly surrender his rights as the President of Italy even if the German people and the Reichstag decree that his state should no longer be given autonomy than any other province?

There is nothing good about the cockroaches we call our Chancellor and Cabinet.
 

Avindian

People's Commissar of the Navy
118 Badges
Jan 3, 2010
12.364
289
  • Crusader Kings II: Jade Dragon
  • Crusader Kings II: Way of Life
  • Crusader Kings II: Holy Knight (pre-order)
  • Cities: Skylines Deluxe Edition
  • Victoria 2: Heart of Darkness
  • Victoria 2: A House Divided
  • Supreme Ruler: Cold War
  • Stellaris: Apocalypse
  • Tyranny: Archon Edition
  • Imperator: Rome
  • Stellaris: Necroids
  • Sword of the Stars II
  • Victoria 2
  • 500k Club
  • Europa Universalis IV: El Dorado
  • Victoria 2 Beta
  • Pillars of Eternity
  • Europa Universalis IV: Common Sense
  • Crusader Kings II: Horse Lords
  • Crusader Kings II: Holy Fury
  • Knights of Pen and Paper 2
  • Surviving Mars: First Colony Edition
  • Crusader Kings II: Conclave
  • Cities: Skylines - Parklife Pre-Order
  • Cities: Skylines - Parklife
  • Hearts of Iron IV Sign-up
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Expansion Pass
  • Cities: Skylines - Natural Disasters
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Together for Victory
  • Crusader Kings II: Monks and Mystics
  • Shadowrun Returns
  • Europa Universalis IV: Mandate of Heaven
  • Shadowrun: Dragonfall
  • BATTLETECH
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Death or Dishonor
  • Stellaris: Synthetic Dawn
  • Shadowrun: Hong Kong
  • Tyranny - Bastards Wound
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cradle of Civilization
  • Stellaris: Humanoids Species Pack
  • Stellaris: Digital Anniversary Edition
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Stellaris: Distant Stars
  • Stellaris Sign-up
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Cadet
  • Crusader Kings II: Reapers Due
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rights of Man
  • Tyranny: Archon Edition
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
Frau Victor,

I am sorry, but your proposals are insane. I do not even think that Herr Meningen is so mad as to support an Italy that is de facto independent from Germany.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Dear nephew,

The present administration is undemocratic, allowing only members of the liberal bloc to serve in important roles. If not for the sensibility of Herr Gutfreund, we would have no meaningful positions in the government at all. It is well for Herr Adimari that he is President of Italy, and perhaps he can restrain the Italian Parliament, but that does not give non-liberals any sort of say in the government of Nürnberg. I do believe that some of your criticisms are sound, and I have amended the bill to read:

1) No German cabinet may consist of members from only a single ideology. Ideology is defined as the present blocs in the Conclave, which are currently Communism, Socialism, Anarcho-Liberalism, Liberalism, Conservatism, and Reactionary.
2) Cabinet here is defined as "Chancellor, Foreign Minister, Minister of the Interior, Minister of War, Minister of Finance, or Minister of Education."

I hope this clarifies your concerns.

Fritz von Hohenzollern
 

Dr.Livingstone

Their Most Majestic and Royal Comrade
55 Badges
Jan 29, 2014
1.846
450
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Magicka
  • Europa Universalis IV: Res Publica
  • Victoria: Revolutions
  • Semper Fi
  • Sengoku
  • Victoria 2: A House Divided
  • Victoria 2: Heart of Darkness
  • Rome: Vae Victis
  • Crusader Kings II: Conclave
  • Cities: Skylines
  • Europa Universalis IV: El Dorado
  • Crusader Kings II: Way of Life
  • Europa Universalis IV: Common Sense
  • Crusader Kings II: Horse Lords
  • Crusader Kings II: Holy Fury
  • Stellaris
  • Hearts of Iron IV Sign-up
  • Stellaris Sign-up
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Cadet
  • Crusader Kings II: Reapers Due
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Together for Victory
  • Crusader Kings II: Monks and Mystics
  • Cities: Skylines - Parklife
  • Age of Wonders III
  • Cities: Skylines - Green Cities
  • Crusader Kings II: Jade Dragon
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Expansion Pass
  • Cities: Skylines - Parklife Pre-Order
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Prison Architect
  • Victoria 2
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Expansion Pass
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Hearts of Iron III Collection
  • Hearts of Iron III: Their Finest Hour
  • Hearts of Iron III
  • Crusader Kings II: Charlemagne
  • Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome
  • Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods
  • Crusader Kings II: Rajas of India
  • Crusader Kings II: The Republic
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
  • Darkest Hour
  • Europa Universalis III
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Europa Universalis IV: Art of War
  • Europa Universalis IV: Conquest of Paradise
Frau Victor,

I am sorry, but your proposals are insane. I do not even think that Herr Meningen is so mad as to support an Italy that is de facto independent from Germany.

I do not doubt for a second that these proposals will be struck down. The anti-federalist feelings in the Reichstag, even among those that claim to support egalitarianism, is strong to the point of insurmountable. However, I will fight and continue to fight for the rights of oppressed masses, whether they be in Rome, Nitra, or Somerset.
The Italian Parliament bring us a proposal, and instead of discussing it as mature politicians, we dismiss it off-hand as we would a child. Doing so, we then decide to punish the Italians for the fault of petitioning the German government. I must ask you gentlemen, if our roles were reversed, would we not hate our oppressors? If it was a regional government made up of Bavarians, would we declare the matter of a citizen being killed so trivially?
The people of Italy have lived and continue to live under a Reichstag that calls them rebels without so much a second thought. The repeal of the Italian Home Rule is assured as soon as another group aside from the Liberal Coalition gains power. This constant threat of repealing all Federalist legislation grows tiring for the all of Italy, and it grows tiring for the remaining ethnic groups without their own parliament. The legacy of the all whom reside in the Reichstag should be one of cooperation and peace with these groups, not the division and base racial enmity that presides.
My husband, the light of my life, died for what he believed. I am willing to do the same.
~Signora Victor
 
Last edited:

Brothersid

First Lieutenant
22 Badges
Jun 10, 2012
200
10
  • Cities in Motion 2
  • Europa Universalis IV: Pre-order
  • Victoria 2: Heart of Darkness
  • Victoria 2: A House Divided
  • Victoria: Revolutions
  • Europa Universalis IV: Res Publica
  • Europa Universalis IV: Conquest of Paradise
  • Europa Universalis IV: Art of War
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
  • Crusader Kings II: Sunset Invasion
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Crusader Kings II: The Republic
  • Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods
  • Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Cities in Motion
  • Victoria 2
  • 500k Club
  • Europa Universalis IV: El Dorado
  • Europa Universalis IV: Common Sense
  • Hearts of Iron IV Sign-up
I must condem in the strongest terms the efforts to permit the Italian Region more autonomy in particular those persons who would seek to permit devloution of martial authority. The devloution of martial authority would make it a trivial matter for a treasonous Italian parliament or a high ranking general to over time purge the Italian officer corps of any officers loyal to Germany first and Italy second and thus allowing them to be in a position to stage a bid to total Independence from Nuremberg at their leisure. I hope that my colleges can understand that such a position is totally untenable if we wish to live in a united republic. I call upon the Federalists and those others amoung us eho support this legislation to finally tell us if they want to live in a untie German Republic and if so how they can reconcile this with recent legislation brough before this body.
 

Andre Massena

Warrior-Representative Fanatic
43 Badges
Sep 23, 2013
7.692
1.609
  • Crusader Kings II: Charlemagne
  • Victoria 2: Heart of Darkness
  • Victoria 2: A House Divided
  • Semper Fi
  • Victoria: Revolutions
  • Europa Universalis IV: Res Publica
  • Heir to the Throne
  • Hearts of Iron III: Their Finest Hour
  • Hearts of Iron III
  • For the Motherland
  • Europa Universalis IV: Wealth of Nations
  • Europa Universalis IV: Conquest of Paradise
  • Europa Universalis IV: Art of War
  • Divine Wind
  • Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome
  • Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods
  • Crusader Kings II: Rajas of India
  • Crusader Kings II: The Republic
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Crusader Kings II: Sunset Invasion
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
  • Darkest Hour
  • Europa Universalis III
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Crusader Kings III
  • Crusader Kings II: Holy Fury
  • Crusader Kings II: Jade Dragon
  • Crusader Kings III: Royal Edition
  • Crusader Kings II: Monks and Mystics
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Together for Victory
  • Crusader Kings II: Reapers Due
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Cadet
  • Crusader Kings II: Conclave
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cossacks
  • Crusader Kings II: Horse Lords
  • Europa Universalis IV: Common Sense
  • Crusader Kings II: Way of Life
  • Europa Universalis IV: El Dorado
  • Victoria 2
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Europa Universalis IV
The current government is a fraud. These are nothing more then radical Lombard Nationalists that have taken controll of our government. They are using us to archieve their goal. A "Greater Italy with all German Lands from the Alps down... This is the second to last stage before they stage their coup and declare their independence.

Comrade Herzog Heinrich IV von Silesia-Glogau, Stadhalter of Breslau

You sir are the assclown of Germany, nay, the entire world.

Let us leave things the way they are. No separate Italian military but no repeal of Italian Home Rule.

-Chancellor Meningen
 

TheChalk

Captain
40 Badges
Feb 19, 2013
314
18
  • Crusader Kings II: Charlemagne
  • Europa Universalis IV: Pre-order
  • Victoria 2: Heart of Darkness
  • Victoria 2: A House Divided
  • Semper Fi
  • Europa Universalis IV: Res Publica
  • Heir to the Throne
  • Hearts of Iron III Collection
  • Hearts of Iron III: Their Finest Hour
  • Hearts of Iron III
  • For the Motherland
  • Europa Universalis IV: Wealth of Nations
  • Europa Universalis IV: Conquest of Paradise
  • Europa Universalis IV: Art of War
  • Divine Wind
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome
  • Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods
  • Crusader Kings II: Rajas of India
  • Crusader Kings II: The Republic
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
  • Europa Universalis III
  • Europa Universalis III: Chronicles
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Crusader Kings II: Sunset Invasion
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • War of the Roses
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rights of Man
  • Europa Universalis IV: Mare Nostrum
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cossacks
  • Crusader Kings II: Horse Lords
  • Europa Universalis IV: Common Sense
  • Crusader Kings II: Way of Life
  • Europa Universalis IV: El Dorado
  • Cities: Skylines
  • Warlock: Master of the Arcane
  • Victoria 2
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
Are all conservatives just Hohenzollern lapdogs? Are all communists Arabian lapdogs?

I appreciate you may view Herr Meningen as somewhat outspoken, but that does not mean we all just follow his lead.

~Samuel von Dwyfor-Frauenkirche, Reichspräsident
 

NachoEater

Captain
82 Badges
Oct 28, 2013
315
42
  • Europa Universalis IV: Pre-order
  • March of the Eagles
  • Europa Universalis IV: Res Publica
  • Victoria: Revolutions
  • Semper Fi
  • Sengoku
  • Victoria 2: A House Divided
  • Victoria 2: Heart of Darkness
  • Warlock 2: The Exiled
  • Crusader Kings II: Charlemagne
  • Tyranny - Tales from the Tiers
  • Pillars of Eternity
  • Stellaris: Synthetic Dawn
  • Cities: Skylines - After Dark
  • Stellaris - Path to Destruction bundle
  • Europa Universalis IV: Mare Nostrum
  • Europa Universalis IV: Third Rome
  • Stellaris: Leviathans Story Pack
  • Hearts of Iron III: Their Finest Hour
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome
  • Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods
  • Crusader Kings II: Rajas of India
  • Crusader Kings II: The Republic
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Crusader Kings II: Sunset Invasion
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
  • Darkest Hour
  • Hearts of Iron III Collection
  • Europa Universalis IV: Art of War
  • Europa Universalis IV: Conquest of Paradise
  • Hearts of Iron III
  • Europa Universalis IV: Wealth of Nations
  • Europa Universalis IV: Call to arms event
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • For the Motherland
  • Crusader Kings II: Conclave
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Together for Victory
  • Cities: Skylines - Natural Disasters
  • Stellaris: Digital Anniversary Edition
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rights of Man
  • Crusader Kings II: Reapers Due
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Cadet
  • Hearts of Iron IV Sign-up
  • Stellaris
  • Crusader Kings II: Horse Lords
  • Victoria 2
  • Mount & Blade: With Fire and Sword
  • Warlock: Master of the Arcane
  • Crusader Kings III
I do not doubt for a second that these proposals will be struck down. The anti-federalist feelings in the Reichstag, even among those that claim to support egalitarianism, is strong to the point of insurmountable. However, I will fight and continue to fight for the rights of oppressed masses, whether they be in Rome, Nitra, or Summerset.
If you care so much about Somerset, perhaps you may learn to pronounce it.
 

DensleyBlair

No Milk Terrorist Son (they/them)
39 Badges
Jul 29, 2012
10.791
2.035
  • Europa Universalis 4: Emperor
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Victoria 2: Heart of Darkness
  • Victoria 2: A House Divided
  • Sengoku
  • Semper Fi
  • March of the Eagles
  • Heir to the Throne
  • Hearts of Iron III
  • For the Motherland
  • Europa Universalis IV: Call to arms event
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Divine Wind
  • Darkest Hour
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
  • Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome
  • Crusader Kings II: The Republic
  • Crusader Kings II: Way of Life
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Expansion Pass
  • Europa Universalis IV: Common Sense
  • Stellaris
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Cadet
  • Crusader Kings II: Reapers Due
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rights of Man
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Together for Victory
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Death or Dishonor
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Expansion Pass
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rule Britannia
  • Europa Universalis IV: Pre-order
  • 500k Club
  • Victoria 2
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Europa Universalis IV: Res Publica
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Europa Universalis III
  • Europa Universalis III: Chronicles
  • Cities: Skylines
If you care so much about Somerset, perhaps you may learn to pronounce it.

His pronunciation sounded perfect to my ears – as aged as they may be.
 

Sakura_F

Stadtholder of Turin
66 Badges
Apr 6, 2011
2.626
205
  • Victoria 2: A House Divided
  • Europa Universalis IV: Call to arms event
  • For the Motherland
  • Hearts of Iron III
  • Hearts of Iron III: Their Finest Hour
  • Heir to the Throne
  • Europa Universalis IV: Res Publica
  • Victoria: Revolutions
  • Semper Fi
  • Crusader Kings II: Charlemagne
  • Victoria 2: Heart of Darkness
  • Stellaris - Path to Destruction bundle
  • Europa Universalis IV: Pre-order
  • Crusader Kings II: Way of Life
  • Europa Universalis IV: Mare Nostrum
  • Crusader Kings II: Jade Dragon
  • Cities: Skylines - Natural Disasters
  • Crusader Kings II: Sunset Invasion
  • Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods
  • Crusader Kings II: Rajas of India
  • Crusader Kings II: The Republic
  • Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Darkest Hour
  • Europa Universalis III
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Europa Universalis IV: Wealth of Nations
  • Divine Wind
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Europa Universalis IV: Art of War
  • Europa Universalis IV: Conquest of Paradise
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Together for Victory
  • Crusader Kings II: Monks and Mystics
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rights of Man
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Colonel
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Cadet
  • Stellaris Sign-up
  • Hearts of Iron IV Sign-up
  • Stellaris
  • Crusader Kings II: Conclave
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cossacks
  • Battle for Bosporus
  • Europa Universalis IV: Common Sense
  • Victoria 2 Beta
  • Europa Universalis IV: El Dorado
  • 500k Club
  • Victoria 2
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
Are all conservatives just Hohenzollern lapdogs? Are all communists Arabian lapdogs?

I appreciate you may view Herr Meningen as somewhat outspoken, but that does not mean we all just follow his lead.

~Samuel von Dwyfor-Frauenkirche, Reichspräsident

If you aren't a Meiningen stooge, then perhaps you should act like it and push against his reckless and damaging policies. He is the only one that speaks for his party, and you let him do it.
 
Last edited:

Michaelangelo

Archaeopteryx
139 Badges
Feb 3, 2011
7.883
1.252
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • 500k Club
  • Stellaris: Nemesis
  • Stellaris: Necroids
  • Battle for Bosporus
  • Stellaris: Federations
  • Imperator: Rome Deluxe Edition
  • Hearts of Iron IV: La Resistance
  • Humble Paradox Bundle
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
  • Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome
  • Crusader Kings II: Sunset Invasion
  • Crusader Kings II: The Republic
  • Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Crusader Kings II: Rajas of India
  • Crusader Kings II: Charlemagne
  • Crusader Kings II: Way of Life
  • Crusader Kings II: Horse Lords
  • Crusader Kings II: Conclave
  • Crusader Kings II: Reapers Due
  • Crusader Kings II: Monks and Mystics
  • Crusader Kings II: Jade Dragon
  • Crusader Kings II: Holy Fury
  • Crusader Kings III: Royal Edition
  • Europa Universalis IV: Pre-order
  • Europa Universalis IV: Conquest of Paradise
  • Europa Universalis IV: Wealth of Nations
  • Europa Universalis IV: Res Publica
  • Europa Universalis IV: Art of War
  • Europa Universalis IV: El Dorado
  • Europa Universalis IV: Common Sense
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cossacks
  • Europa Universalis IV: Mare Nostrum
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rights of Man
  • Europa Universalis IV: Mandate of Heaven
  • Europa Universalis IV: Third Rome
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cradle of Civilization
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rule Britannia
  • Europa Universalis IV: Dharma
  • Europa Universalis IV: Golden Century
  • Europa Universalis 4: Emperor
  • Victoria 2
  • Victoria 2: A House Divided
  • Victoria 2: Heart of Darkness
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Colonel
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Together for Victory
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Death or Dishonor
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Expansion Pass
You sir are the assclown of Germany, nay, the entire world.

Let us leave things the way they are. No separate Italian military but no repeal of Italian Home Rule.

-Chancellor Meningen

This I can agree to. As much as I dislike Italian Home Rule, it did pass through the Reichstag. A separate Italian military, however, is a potentially dangerous proposition and sets a precedent for the eventual devolution of the Reichstag's powers. It is a slippery slope that can lead to Germany's collapse. Let us do as the Chancellor says and leave things as they are for now.

- Eva von Vandenburg
 

Dr.Livingstone

Their Most Majestic and Royal Comrade
55 Badges
Jan 29, 2014
1.846
450
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Magicka
  • Europa Universalis IV: Res Publica
  • Victoria: Revolutions
  • Semper Fi
  • Sengoku
  • Victoria 2: A House Divided
  • Victoria 2: Heart of Darkness
  • Rome: Vae Victis
  • Crusader Kings II: Conclave
  • Cities: Skylines
  • Europa Universalis IV: El Dorado
  • Crusader Kings II: Way of Life
  • Europa Universalis IV: Common Sense
  • Crusader Kings II: Horse Lords
  • Crusader Kings II: Holy Fury
  • Stellaris
  • Hearts of Iron IV Sign-up
  • Stellaris Sign-up
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Cadet
  • Crusader Kings II: Reapers Due
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Together for Victory
  • Crusader Kings II: Monks and Mystics
  • Cities: Skylines - Parklife
  • Age of Wonders III
  • Cities: Skylines - Green Cities
  • Crusader Kings II: Jade Dragon
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Expansion Pass
  • Cities: Skylines - Parklife Pre-Order
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Prison Architect
  • Victoria 2
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Expansion Pass
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Hearts of Iron III Collection
  • Hearts of Iron III: Their Finest Hour
  • Hearts of Iron III
  • Crusader Kings II: Charlemagne
  • Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome
  • Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods
  • Crusader Kings II: Rajas of India
  • Crusader Kings II: The Republic
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
  • Darkest Hour
  • Europa Universalis III
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Europa Universalis IV: Art of War
  • Europa Universalis IV: Conquest of Paradise
I will officially retract the Italian Military Act from the ballot, however I will continue to push for the Italian Preservation Act.
~Signora Victor
 

PTSnoop

Freelance Vexillographer
74 Badges
Apr 25, 2014
426
71
  • Victoria 2: Heart of Darkness
  • Knights of Pen and Paper +1 Edition
  • Leviathan: Warships
  • Magicka
  • Stellaris - Path to Destruction bundle
  • Europa Universalis IV: Res Publica
  • Victoria: Revolutions
  • Semper Fi
  • Victoria 2: A House Divided
  • Crusader Kings II: Charlemagne
  • Europa Universalis IV: Pre-order
  • Cities: Skylines - After Dark
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cossacks
  • Cities: Skylines - Snowfall
  • Europa Universalis IV: Mare Nostrum
  • Stellaris: Galaxy Edition
  • Stellaris: Synthetic Dawn
  • Crusader Kings II: Reapers Due
  • Hearts of Iron III: Their Finest Hour
  • Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods
  • Crusader Kings II: Rajas of India
  • Crusader Kings II: The Republic
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Crusader Kings II: Sunset Invasion
  • Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
  • Europa Universalis III
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Hearts of Iron III Collection
  • Europa Universalis IV: Art of War
  • Europa Universalis IV: Conquest of Paradise
  • Europa Universalis IV: Wealth of Nations
  • Europa Universalis IV: Call to arms event
  • For the Motherland
  • Hearts of Iron III
  • Stellaris: Leviathans Story Pack
  • Stellaris: Digital Anniversary Edition
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rights of Man
  • Stellaris Sign-up
  • Hearts of Iron IV Sign-up
  • Cities: Skylines - Natural Disasters
  • Stellaris: Galaxy Edition
  • Stellaris
  • Crusader Kings II: Conclave
  • Crusader Kings III
  • Europa Universalis IV: Common Sense
  • Crusader Kings II: Way of Life
  • Europa Universalis IV: El Dorado
  • Cities: Skylines
Regarding paragraph 1 of the Italian Preservation Act, I was under the impression that repealing the Italian Home Rule act already required the consent of the Italian Parliament. The Italian Parliament has been given "full legislative authority over affairs local to Italy" - and if the existence or nonexistence of the Parliament does not count as "affairs local to Italy", I would like to know what does.

Nontheless, I am glad to hear Frau Victor has retracted the Italian Military Act - especially considering that this whole question was prompted by the Parliament voting for less military presence, not more.
 

Sakura_F

Stadtholder of Turin
66 Badges
Apr 6, 2011
2.626
205
  • Victoria 2: A House Divided
  • Europa Universalis IV: Call to arms event
  • For the Motherland
  • Hearts of Iron III
  • Hearts of Iron III: Their Finest Hour
  • Heir to the Throne
  • Europa Universalis IV: Res Publica
  • Victoria: Revolutions
  • Semper Fi
  • Crusader Kings II: Charlemagne
  • Victoria 2: Heart of Darkness
  • Stellaris - Path to Destruction bundle
  • Europa Universalis IV: Pre-order
  • Crusader Kings II: Way of Life
  • Europa Universalis IV: Mare Nostrum
  • Crusader Kings II: Jade Dragon
  • Cities: Skylines - Natural Disasters
  • Crusader Kings II: Sunset Invasion
  • Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods
  • Crusader Kings II: Rajas of India
  • Crusader Kings II: The Republic
  • Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Darkest Hour
  • Europa Universalis III
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Europa Universalis IV: Wealth of Nations
  • Divine Wind
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Europa Universalis IV: Art of War
  • Europa Universalis IV: Conquest of Paradise
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Together for Victory
  • Crusader Kings II: Monks and Mystics
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rights of Man
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Colonel
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Cadet
  • Stellaris Sign-up
  • Hearts of Iron IV Sign-up
  • Stellaris
  • Crusader Kings II: Conclave
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cossacks
  • Battle for Bosporus
  • Europa Universalis IV: Common Sense
  • Victoria 2 Beta
  • Europa Universalis IV: El Dorado
  • 500k Club
  • Victoria 2
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
It doesn't require the consent of the Italian Parliament to repeal it. Otherwise it would be impossible to. What body would vote to dissolve itself?