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((PTSnoop has a point. It's been a while since I've given any kind of general update about the world, hasn't it? After this coming election, we should be in or close to 1880, and I'll do one in 1880. Once we get there, you guys can make recommendations for what you'd like to say.

Here's a present map of the Middle East.

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Also, a funny thing happened on the way to the map...))

Gentlemen,

I just received an urgent request from our friends in Algeria. They are seeking to liberate Taza, which is ancestral territory for them, from the clutches of the Toucouleur Empire. ((Taza is a single province -- Figuig. If you look at the map, it's a small piece of the northern strip of the Empire.)) To do this, they need our help. It is true that Canada claims to protect the Empire, but in all honesty, Canada is a Great Power on paper only; they have a mere 8 brigades and sixteen ships. The Empire itself has a slightly larger army, 22 brigades, but they do not have even have proper gunpowder weapons. ((They have three army techs.))

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I propose that we not only honor the Algerian alliance, but that we use the opportunity to slice off a piece of the Empire for ourselves: namely, Sierra Leone, which possesses gold reserves and coffee, the latter of which all Germans desperately crave. Indeed, it might even be suitable to bring the entire Empire under our protection. ((Sphere them.)) I think a single German army, transported to Liberia, could easily defeat the Empire. If Canada even got involved, they would be no match for our forces.

((In-game terms, we'd take Sierra Leone first, give Algeria their goal, and if possible, sphere them.))

What say you, brothers of the Reichstag? Shall we remind the world that we are no power to be trifled with?

Fritz von Hohenzollern, Foreign Minister

((This vote is to be settled immediately; continue to submit new legislation or discuss existing legislation, but please do vote on the DOW and the war goals.))
 

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I will gladly support our allies.
 

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I say we support our allies.

- Friedrick Thiessen
 

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I support this war, although if Canada does get involved, I must speak against any direct engagement with them. They are German descendents, after all, and we must show them due respect.

- Wilhelm von Vandenburg
 

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I support the war, and support Herr von Vandenburg's suggestion.
 

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For the war this is an excellent opptunity to expand German influence in Africa. In addition due to the recent treatment of pheraps the most infamous traitor in recent German history I do propose the following bill.
The Treason Act
All persons convicted of treason shall be sentenced to death.
 

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I agree to help our allies reclaim their birthright. I also agree to attempt to force colonial concessions.
 
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Herr Schaumberg's bill is acceptable and will be added to the upcoming ballot.

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Mr. President of the Conclave of Stadtholder and Right Honourable Stadtholders of the German Republic,

Years ago, I asked our Kanzler how long the people of Germany can enjoy peace after the National Assembly and the Conclave of Stadtholders declared war on the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland. This war cost us the lives of nearly 100 000 Germans, too many mothers lost their sons, too many wifes their husbands, too many children their fathers, in return for continued control of Cornwall, a land that neither wants to be ruled by German Republic and in the long run, can be ruled by German Republic, and a small strip of land in Africa, which, too, does not want to be ruled by the German Republic. Again we seem to embark on a campaign for teritorial gains at the cost of destruction of not only the regions the National Assembly and Conclave of Stadtholders wish to conquer, but the destruction, impairment and division of families in Germany, the Toucouleur Empire and Algeria, eventhough every peace this nation has signed has proven to be finite, either by the doing of our Assemblymen and Governments or by the bitter governments of the beaten nations, thus I do not see how this war and its ultimate and unaviodable conclusion in the form an unstable peace - truce would be a better word - will be any different, how the end of this conflict will not mean more conflict in the coming decades between the conquered and the conquerors. The only way we, the Repressentatives of the Germanic Peoples, can achieve World Peace without destroying the status quo is by accepting that the myth of peace through war is just a myth and by opening talks with the nations who have been punished by not only their territorial loss, but by the loss of their sons, their fathers, their brothers, to talk out our differences and to end conflict not by death and distruction but by conversation and cooperation. Some might say that glory and honour will be lost and forgotten if we find diplomatic solutions to our problems, I encourage you, Herr President, Herren Stadtholders, to ask a British, a German, or a Polish mother whether honour and glory matter when she has lost her sons, husband and father in useless wars, her silence will be your answer.


However, the hawkish personality that the German State seems to possess is caused by something far worse than itself, the militarism that has grown strong in the German Society, one can even say that militarism is one of the most important foundations of the German Society, however this militarism is an artificial foundation and should be removed from the German Society, for this will only lead to the death of our sons and the destruction of our lands. I will not claim that this Government and the Assembly are responsible for this war, the directy responsiblity of this war are the Algerian and Toucouleur Governments and their claims on each others possessions in Africa, but the failure to communitacte with other countries and the hubris that has taken over the Assembly and succeeding Governments, has lead to the untrue belief that the German nation is invincible, which has lead to the cold relations we currently have with many European nations and Great Powers. I will quote this line from Matthew 26:52 "Put your sword back in its place," Jesus said to him, "for all that draw the sword will die by the sword." Too many times we have drawn swords to battle Nations and sometimes even ourselves, I do not preach for the end of a German Army, as Jesus did not preach for the sword to be removed entirely, however, I do preach that we should not draw swords, for eventually the myth of German Invinciblity will be proven for what it is, a myth, and it will lead to the downfall of our nation and the death of millions. Thus I ask you, I beg you, seek out the pen rather than the sword, fight the artificial militarist foundation of our nation and our people, vote against the war in Africa, for if we do not, I fear for the future of not only Germany, but also the free world.


Franz von Bavel-Timmermans, Minister of Finance, Leader of the Deutsch Soziale Union in the Conclave of Stadtholders, Stadtholder of Rotterdam
 

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Mr. President of the Conclave of Stadtholder and Right Honourable Stadtholders of the German Republic,

Years ago, I asked our Kanzler how long the people of Germany can enjoy peace after the National Assembly and the Conclave of Stadtholders declared war on the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland. This war cost us the lives of nearly 100 000 Germans, too many mothers lost their sons, too many wifes their husbands, too many children their fathers, in return for continued control of Cornwall, a land that neither wants to be ruled by German Republic and in the long run, can be ruled by German Republic, and a small strip of land in Africa, which, too, does not want to be ruled by the German Republic. Again we seem to embark on a campaign for teritorial gains at the cost of destruction of not only the regions the National Assembly and Conclave of Stadtholders wish to conquer, but the destruction, impairment and division of families in Germany, the Toucouleur Empire and Algeria, eventhough every peace this nation has signed has proven to be finite, either by the doing of our Assemblymen and Governments or by the bitter governments of the beaten nations, thus I do not see how this war and its ultimate and unaviodable conclusion in the form an unstable peace - truce would be a better word - will be any different, how the end of this conflict will not mean more conflict in the coming decades between the conquered and the conquerors. The only way we, the Repressentatives of the Germanic Peoples, can achieve World Peace without destroying the status quo is by accepting that the myth of peace through war is just a myth and by opening talks with the nations who have been punished by not only their territorial loss, but by the loss of their sons, their fathers, their brothers, to talk out our differences and to end conflict not by death and distruction but by conversation and cooperation. Some might say that glory and honour will be lost and forgotten if we find diplomatic solutions to our problems, I encourage you, Herr President, Herren Stadtholders, to ask a British, a German, or a Polish mother whether honour and glory matter when she has lost her sons, husband and father in useless wars, her silence will be your answer.


However, the hawkish personality that the German State seems to possess is caused by something far worse than itself, the militarism that has grown strong in the German Society, one can even say that militarism is one of the most important foundations of the German Society, however this militarism is an artificial foundation and should be removed from the German Society, for this will only lead to the death of our sons and the destruction of our lands. I will not claim that this Government and the Assembly are responsible for this war, the directy responsiblity of this war are the Algerian and Toucouleur Governments and their claims on each others possessions in Africa, but the failure to communitacte with other countries and the hubris that has taken over the Assembly and succeeding Governments, has lead to the untrue belief that the German nation is invincible, which has lead to the cold relations we currently have with many European nations and Great Powers. I will quote this line from Matthew 26:52 "Put your sword back in its place," Jesus said to him, "for all that draw the sword will die by the sword." Too many times we have drawn swords to battle Nations and sometimes even ourselves, I do not preach for the end of a German Army, as Jesus did not preach for the sword to be removed entirely, however, I do preach that we should not draw swords, for eventually the myth of German Invinciblity will be proven for what it is, a myth, and it will lead to the downfall of our nation and the death of millions. Thus I ask you, I beg you, seek out the pen rather than the sword, fight the artificial militarist foundation of our nation and our people, vote against the war in Africa, for if we do not, I fear for the future of not only Germany, but also the free world.


Franz von Bavel-Timmermans, Minister of Finance, Leader of the Deutsch Soziale Union in the Conclave of Stadtholders, Stadtholder of Rotterdam

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That's wonderful Herr von Altmark, would you like a lolly as well?
 
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((@Jack LEagle, your vote is requested on the DOW. @Warlord Skorr might also provide his vote as well.))

Herren, the official ballot for our business this session is as follows:

1. Shall Germany legalize socialist trade unions?
2. Shall Germany support the creation of a Jewish homeland in Syria?
3. Shall Germany support Friedrich Krupp and accept his sponsorship of German schools?
4. Shall all prisoners convicted of treason be automatically executed, with no possibility of appeal?

Both houses will vote on every issue. ((Decisions are a constitutional amendment, according to the constitution, so #2 can't be assembly only.)) Voting will proceed until Monday at 10 PM (-6 GMT) or until one side or the other is victorious.

Those individuals who have yet to vote on the declaration of war are encouraged to do so also.

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