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I will vote for mercy. The defendant deserves life imprisonment for what he has done, of that there is no doubt, however execution will be damaging, not only to the man's son but also to the morale of the German people. I fear this may only inflame the situation further. I also find my fellow members of the Reichstag's opinion that somehow all German soldiers are pure and dedicated to our glroious republic and committed no atrocities to be extremely foolish. There is no doubt that these Militant Socialists did as well, yet they will be the ones punished, and not the soldiers.
Axel Wouters
 

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Ferdinand von Hohenzollern's request shows an inconsistent attitude towards the importance of family. First, he requests that his sentence be reduced on the basis that his son requires a father - but then he requests that Albrecht be completely separated from any other members of his extended family. This does not seem normal or reasonable.

Ferdinand has good-as-admitted that the reason for such a request is to ensure that Albrecht grows up to hold Ferdinand's own political views. Given that those political views include treason against the Republic, I see no reason why this request should be upheld by the court.

Furthermore, I know of no legal basis for a plea of leniency on the basis of parenthood. If there were, then far fewer executions would be carried out by the Republic's legal system. To give Ferdinand special treatment in this case on the basis of his esteemed surname would be, in my opinion, a gross miscarriage of justice.

No Mercy shall be given to the defendant.

Furthermore, I support Ferdinand's request of execution by firing squad and oppose the alternative proposals of execution by public or private hanging, and I strongly oppose the suggestion that the firing squad members be government figures. I also suggest that no special measures be taken by the court regarding Albrecht's relation with his extended family, either for or against - Ferdinand's wife (( does she have a name? I don't think she's been given one yet )) shall remain in custody of the child, and it shall ultimately remain her decision.
My wife is named Fredericka Mauer.I think she will honour my last wish, as we are on equal footing.She has the same rights as I do,she is not entrenched in the kitchen like the common German housewife.And for your information, my son Albrecht is not even close enough related to even be able to call the branch of my Uncles, his close family.All I have left are my sisters, who have been married off like slaves.My older brother has been dead for decades, as is my father and grandfather.The Hohenzollerns of that branch have no close connection anymore to my branch.Sending my son to them is like sending an orphan to a completely new family, while there is still one capable parent left.
 

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((DG, I am not letting you get away with playing as a baby, again, for another 30 years. :) Keep that in mind when discussing the fate of your child.))

We have two jurors voting for mercy and four for execution.

The Supreme Court will rule on the fate of the child once Herr von Hohenzollern's fate is known.

Chief Justice of the Supreme Court
 

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Mercy! If Herr von Hohenzollern is put to death, I humbly request I be made his state-appointed guardian so that I may ensure he grows up a proper German man. I will make sure he lives a life of German justice.
 

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((DG, I am not letting you get away with playing as a baby, again, for another 30 years. :) Keep that in mind when discussing the fate of your child.))

We have two jurors voting for mercy and four for execution.

The Supreme Court will rule on the fate of the child once Herr von Hohenzollern's fate is known.

Chief Justice of the Supreme Court
((Aww.Why not.One in total poverty that never gets mentioned again :p Maybe in 50 years he will be elected or something, not knowing his heritage ;) I would keep playing only as him (Thus a late game return)))
 

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All those who would see this degenerate, this godless murderer, this disgraceful stain on the fabric of the German nation granted clemency are cowards and hypocrites who would do well to resign their positions as representatives of the German people.

~ Friedrich von Hohenstaufen, Minister of the Interior and Chief of the General Staff
 

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I have done some hard thinking on my decision for this trial and have decided that the defendant deserves no mercy. While I was willing to consider his mercy plea with the possibility of his newborn son becoming fatherless, his later statements make it glaringly obvious that he carries no remorse for his actions and the damage he has caused. Quite frankly, the man is delusional and a danger to society. I fear that sparing his life may spur on the militant socialists to break him free at a later date and cause even more harm. As for his son, perhaps he will grow up in a more loving home amongst his fellow Hohenzollerns without the influence of his father.

On a more distressing note, I am no longer proud to be considered a German, since with the passing of the Citizenship and Religion Act the term no longer has any meaning. Now that anyone with a single German parent is considered a German citizen, regardless of birthplace or ethnicity, I expect to see millions of foreigners outside our borders claim German citizenship within a few generations. All it takes is a few thousand Germans to emigrate elsewhere and all their children, grandchildren, great-grandchildren, and so on will be considered German citizens without ever having set foot within our glorious nation. Just like the Romans, the barbarians will flood our borders and wipe away our civilization.

- Wilhelm von Vandenburg
I do .Every man that has fallen by my hands, all 107 of them, still haunt my dreams.All those men died for good reasons, yet they still do.It has been a full year, but I have not got a good full night of sleep since before the rebellion.I never intended, nor did my fellow comrades.We insisted on peace, and even democracy after the social reform would have been pushed through.New, fresh elections.Full equality.ALL off the appropriate age would have been able to vote.Even women.That dream ended the day the army came marching in.

He then puts his head on the table and very silently starts crying.
 

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All those who would see this degenerate, this godless murderer, this disgraceful stain on the fabric of the German nation granted clemency are cowards and hypocrites who would do well to resign their positions as representatives of the German people.

~ Friedrich von Hohenstaufen, Minister of the Interior and Chief of the General Staff
All those who would attempt to sway the vote of a jury, and the delivery of justice, are worthless cowards and hypocrites would do well to resign from their role in this great, fair republic.
Axel Wouters
 

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All those who would attempt to sway the vote of a jury, and the delivery of justice, are worthless cowards and hypocrites would do well to resign from their role in this great, fair republic.
Axel Wouters

You dare question my honour? I challenge you to a duel.
 

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You dare question my honour? I challenge you to a duel.
I question not your honour, merely your overt attempts to obstruct justice. I tentatively accept this proposal. I do not believe that I, as a man with little martial skill will win but I will not stand idly by while being called a coward and a hypocrite. ((I have gtg now, so can we do this tomorrow?))
 

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((Aww.Why not.One in total poverty that never gets mentioned again :p Maybe in 50 years he will be elected or something, not knowing his heritage ;) I would keep playing only as him (Thus a late game return)))

((Well, for one, you keep killing off your characters. ;) More specifically, I did specifically state in the OP that I reserve control over the Hohenzollerns, and you produced yet another offspring without checking with me.))

Herr von Nassau, as you are not a juror, your input is appreciated but not necessary to the carrying out of justice.

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((Well, for one, you keep killing off your characters. ;) More specifically, I did specifically state in the OP that I reserve control over the Hohenzollerns, and you produced yet another offspring without checking with me.))

Herr von Nassau, as you are not a juror, your input is appreciated but not necessary to the carrying out of justice.

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((I killed Albrecht, I will not kill Ferdinand, at worst he will be killed by the others.Why not allow me with a baby ? I cant do shit with it, just as I want if Ferdinand dies.When he matures ill be back around.))
 

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URGENT NEWS BULLETIN

14 January 1876:

Herren, I just finished a conversation with our friends in Ethiopia. They want our support for a declaration of war on Benin, a country who falsely claims Ethiopian territory as their own. I am seeking your approval for to come to our ally's aid in a purely financial and moral sense; we would provide war subsidies but no active military support at this time. Ethiopia understands that, as much as Germany might wish to provide her with troops or warships.

Fritz von Hohenzollern, Foreign Minister

((Everybody, in both houses, needs to vote for the DOW. @LatinKaiser, I won't require a war plan because we aren't committing troops. I would, however, like you to give us our new NF, which will come available by the end of March.))
 

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I support humanitary subsides to help the Ethiopian people
 

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I support aiding our ally, Ethiopia. Sending monetary aid for their war effort is a simple way to keep our alliance and help a friend of Germany.

- Wilhelm von Vandenburg
 

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I will vote in favour of supporting Ethiopia in their war.