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I find this casual admission of murdering German soldiers quite disturbing. Taking the lives of men who serve their country and who are merely performing their duty does not make their deaths any less excusable. On the contrary, killing soldiers makes the crime that much worse, since it is an open attack against the German state.

It is clear that Herr Hohenzollern does not regret his crimes, and thus he must be punished for then. However, as Herr Wittelsbach has mentioned, it is also a crime to rid a boy of his father. I believe for the sake of the child, the sentence should be lessened. I recommend a long-term jail sentence, perhaps even a life-long one, with visitation rights granted so that he may visit his son. He shall be punished, but let us not punish his child in the process.

- Wilhelm von Vandenburg
You would talk different if you have seen what I have seen.Soldiers, poking eyes out, torturing captured comrades.I shall not even go into further detail about what crimes these soldiers, although being the representatives of the state, have committed, so gruesome they are.We tried to keep order on the streets, but quite regulary bands of soldiers just came around, and started shooting at anything and all.Women and Children, some as young as my newborn son, murdered without reason.When I was arrested, I was about to kill myself.I could not stand the idea of recieving the same torture.
 

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You would talk different if you have seen what I have seen.Soldiers, poking eyes out, torturing captured comrades.I shall not even go into further detail about what crimes these soldiers, although being the representatives of the state, have committed, so gruesome they are.We tried to keep order on the streets, but quite regulary bands of soldiers just came around, and started shooting at anything and all.Women and Children, some as young as my newborn son, murdered without reason.When I was arrested, I was about to kill myself.I could not stand the idea of recieving the same torture.

Interesting, since I seem to remember men, women, and children fleeing the city in terror because their homes were being set alight by militant socialists. I was outside Nürnberg during the rebellion and assisted the soldier in retaking the city. I saw the destruction that resulted because these socialists decided they could no longer obey the law and voice their opinion through the democratic process. It was the rebels who took up arms first and forced the army to march into the capital to put down a rebellion. If such atrocities did happen, then they will likely be investigated and the guilty parties punished. Do not act as though you are blameless in this matter. If atrocities were committed, it is just as likely to be at rebel hands. It was not the German army that decided that the capital should become a war zone, but the socialists who decided that German blood had to be spilled as a means to an end.

- Wilhelm von Vandenburg
 

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The defendant has plead for mercy. If this is granted by the members of the jury, he will be imprisoned with no possibility of parole. If it is not granted, he will be executed by firing squad per his request. The jury is as follows:


Axel Wouters (NachoEater)
Otto von Altmark (Dadarian)
Christian Peymann (Damerell)
Adolf Heinrich von Arnim-Boitzenburg (Davout)
Wilhelm von Vandenburg (Michaelangelo)
Karl Adimari (PTSnoop)
Albrecht von Spinoza (GreatUberGeek)
Maximillian von Wittelsbach (Sakura_F)
Walther Herwig (Warlord Skorr)
Ludwig Fredrik Anderson (Gen. Marshall)
Nikolaus Friedrich Peter von Oldenburg (Korona)
Friedrich Meier (Idhrendur)
Hals Gutfreund (Jack LEagle)

Seven votes are required to either grant mercy or confirm the verdict and sentence as is.
 

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No mercy should be given. Traitors are executed.

Von Altmark grumbles

I prefer a good public hanging though
 

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I find this casual admission of murdering German soldiers quite disturbing. Taking the lives of men who serve their country and who are merely performing their duty does not make their deaths any less excusable. On the contrary, killing soldiers makes the crime that much worse, since it is an open attack against the German state.

It is clear that Herr Hohenzollern does not regret his crimes, and thus he must be punished for then. However, as Herr Wittelsbach has mentioned, it is also a crime to rid a boy of his father. I believe for the sake of the child, the sentence should be lessened. I recommend a long-term jail sentence, perhaps even a life-long one, with visitation rights granted so that he may visit his son. He shall be punished, but let us not punish his child in the process.

- Wilhelm von Vandenburg

My, my, the Reactionaries have gone soft
 

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Noting the militancy of races and minorities within the German Republic,
Promoting Equality and liberty throughout the Nation,
and, Attempting to create a more democratic and Representative Germany, in the interest of all her citizens,
the following proposal is to be made to the Reichstag:

The Minorities Bill
Section A
1. Any acts of Discrimination on the basis of Race, in which the victim is denied benefits or opportunities given to other citizens, are to be condemned and outlawed by the Federal Government.

2. This Committee will fall under the Ministry of the Interior, and will work in cooperation with the Corps of Gendarmerie to all investigate discriminatory institutions within the Federal System of Government.
3. The Committee will also advise the Government on legislative and executive matters pertaining to race, as well as advise the Ministry with policy pertaining to race relations*.

Section B
1. Bilingualism within certain states will be included in the curricula of the German Republic.
2. German is to be the official language of the Republic.
3. Secondary Languages are to be taught in the following regions:
a. Cornwall-Welsh
b.The Rhine Regions-French
c. Italia-Italian
d. Jutland-Danish
E. West Prussia-Polish
4. The educational districts of those regions are to teach both the primary and the secondary from a young age.

((*The Policy I refer to is a new simple mechanic I thought would make the game more immersive. What it adds is a policy the minister of the interior implements towards races. It comes in 5 stages:
Oppressive: Always take German side, if there's a choice between militancy of a racial pop vs. Consciousness, take militancy.
Biased: Always take German side except if the result is detrimental to the nation. E.g don't pick militancy when a revolt seems likely.
Balanced: Try to balance it. Do whatever best for the nation while keeping minorities in mind.
Diversity: Always go with minorities side except if detrimental.
Positive Discrimination: Always go with minorities side. No matter what.))
 

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Herr Victor is reminded that the time to propose new legislation has already passed for this session of the Reichstag; he may, if he chooses, introduce the bill at our next session.

The results of our present voting are:

The Citizenship and Religion Act passes, 308 votes to 63 in the Assembly and 55 votes to 29 in the Conclave.
The Government Indoctrination Act also passes, 152 votes voting in favor in the Assembly to none against, and 83 votes to 17 against in the Conclave.

Thank you for your time, gentlemen. You may cast your ballots for the trial of Ferdinand von Hohenzollern, but all other Reichstag business is concluded.

Chief Justice of the Supreme Court

((I will play and update tomorrow; this AAR is second in the queue behind my HOI3 AAR. If we don't get the voting for the trial finished before I update, it's of no consequence.))
 

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There should be no mercy. Not only should one bearing the name Hohenzollern hold to the highest of standards, but the defendant shows no remorse for the wives his actions have made widows, the children his actions have made orphans. That a Hohenzollern should so brazenly harm the nation and the people of the nation…no, there shall be no mercy. Indeed, as he wishes a firing squad, let him hang. He wishes his child raised apart from his family? Let his family instead show him the proper station of one bearing their name. Let all his final hopes be ashes in his mouth, and yet it still will not begin to ease the grief he has caused. Let any who consider repeating his crimes think on his end and therefore repent. No mercy.

FM
 

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I have done some hard thinking on my decision for this trial and have decided that the defendant deserves no mercy. While I was willing to consider his mercy plea with the possibility of his newborn son becoming fatherless, his later statements make it glaringly obvious that he carries no remorse for his actions and the damage he has caused. Quite frankly, the man is delusional and a danger to society. I fear that sparing his life may spur on the militant socialists to break him free at a later date and cause even more harm. As for his son, perhaps he will grow up in a more loving home amongst his fellow Hohenzollerns without the influence of his father.

On a more distressing note, I am no longer proud to be considered a German, since with the passing of the Citizenship and Religion Act the term no longer has any meaning. Now that anyone with a single German parent is considered a German citizen, regardless of birthplace or ethnicity, I expect to see millions of foreigners outside our borders claim German citizenship within a few generations. All it takes is a few thousand Germans to emigrate elsewhere and all their children, grandchildren, great-grandchildren, and so on will be considered German citizens without ever having set foot within our glorious nation. Just like the Romans, the barbarians will flood our borders and wipe away our civilization.

- Wilhelm von Vandenburg
 

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((That's three votes for no mercy and one vote for mercy. Keep the votes coming, jurors!))
 

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I have done some hard thinking on my decision for this trial and have decided that the defendant deserves no mercy. While I was willing to consider his mercy plea with the possibility of his newborn son becoming fatherless, his later statements make it glaringly obvious that he carries no remorse for his actions and the damage he has caused. Quite frankly, the man is delusional and a danger to society. I fear that sparing his life may spur on the militant socialists to break him free at a later date and cause even more harm. As for his son, perhaps he will grow up in a more loving home amongst his fellow Hohenzollerns without the influence of his father.

On a more distressing note, I am no longer proud to be considered a German, since with the passing of the Citizenship and Religion Act the term no longer has any meaning. Now that anyone with a single German parent is considered a German citizen, regardless of birthplace or ethnicity, I expect to see millions of foreigners outside our borders claim German citizenship within a few generations. All it takes is a few thousand Germans to emigrate elsewhere and all their children, grandchildren, great-grandchildren, and so on will be considered German citizens without ever having set foot within our glorious nation. Just like the Romans, the barbarians will flood our borders and wipe away our civilization.

- Wilhelm von Vandenburg

It is Germany's destiny to spread democracy across the world. One day, all the world will be German.

-Herr Liberator
 

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It is Germany's destiny to spread democracy across the world. One day, all the world will be German.

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Making the world German is pointless if the very essence of being German is diluted in the process. All this will accomplish is to make the term meaningless, some title that anyone can claim as their own. I wouldn't be surprised if the various ethnic groups within Germany stick more closely to their own identity as a result, thus spurring on nationalist movements. I may have to start calling myself Bavarian now.

- Wilhelm von Vandenburg
 

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Making the world German is pointless if the very essence of being German is diluted in the process. All this will accomplish is to make the term meaningless, some title that anyone can claim as their own. I wouldn't be surprised if the various ethnic groups within Germany stick more closely to their own identity as a result, thus spurring on nationalist movements. I may have to start calling myself Bavarian now.

- Wilhelm von Vandenburg

What does German mean to you? By your definition, we should release Italy and the Dutch lands as independent states.

My definition of a German is inclusive and allows all different kinds of peoples to live under the German banner in a harmonious and democratic imperial republic.
 

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What does German mean to you? By your definition, we should release Italy and the Dutch lands as independent states.

My definition of a German is inclusive and allows all different kinds of peoples to live under the German banner in a harmonious and democratic imperial republic.

I could go on about what I find as German, but at the moment its the idea of German citizenship that is in peril. Unfortunately the new Act makes it so these new German citizens don't even have to live under the German banner in our so-called democratic imperial republic, as you put it, nor do their parents or grandparents if a single ancestor down their family line was a German citizen. As I have stated, children of German emigrants will now be raised outside of Germany with loyalty to a foreign power and not our state who now will become German citizens. By the grace of God, I only hope that this Act is not retroactive or the Germany we know is lost.

- Wilhelm von Vandenburg

((In all seriousness, this Act seems incredibly radical to me, even by today's standards. Being able to inherit citizenship, regardless of birthplace or where one is raised, seems quite dangerous to me. If the countries of Europe had adopted such a measure in real life back in the 19th century, I could probably be a citizen of half a dozen nations. :p))
 

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[QBugger.Ichaelangelo, post: 19256927, member: 261870"]I have done some hard thinking on my decision for this trial and have decided that the defendant deserves no mercy. While I was willing to consider his mercy plea with the possibility of his newborn son becoming fatherless, his later statements make it glaringly obvious that he carries no remorse for his actions and the damage he has caused. Quite frankly, the man is delusional and a danger to society. I fear that sparing his life may spur on the militant socialists to break him free at a later date and cause even more harm. As for his son, perhaps he will grow up in a more loving home amongst his fellow Hohenzollerns without the influence of his father.

On a more distressing note, I am no longer proud to be considered a German, since with the passing of the Citizenship and Religion Act the term no longer has any meaning. Now that anyone with a single German parent is considered a German citizen, regardless of birthplace or ethnicity, I expect to see millions of foreigners outside our borders claim German citizenship within a few generations. All it takes is a few thousand Germans to emigrate elsewhere and all their children, grandchildren, great-grandchildren, and so on will be considered German citizens without ever having set foot within our glorious nation. Just like the Romans, the barbarians will flood our borders and wipe away our civilization.

- Wilhelm von Vandenburg[/QUOTE]
((Bugger.I wasted that vote.Start over and forget what I said ? ;)))
Yes Herr Meier.Sentence my newborn son to a live of luxury and decadence.Him becoming an aristocratic snob that looks down on the common folk.I do not want him to be a prisoner to his surname like I am.I want him to have a normal live,not one of nobility.Thats why I am naming him : Albrecht Müller .So he can go through a live of peace.
 
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I could go on about what I find as German, but at the moment its the idea of German citizenship that is in peril. Unfortunately the new Act makes it so these new German citizens don't even have to live under the German banner in our so-called democratic imperial republic, as you put it, nor do their parents or grandparents if a single ancestor down their family line was a German citizen. As I have stated, children of German emigrants will now be raised outside of Germany with loyalty to a foreign power and not our state who now will become German citizens. By the grace of God, I only hope that this Act is not retroactive or the Germany we know is lost.

- Wilhelm von Vandenburg

((In all seriousness, this Act seems incredibly radical to me, even by today's standards. Being able to inherit citizenship, regardless of birthplace or where one is raised, seems quite dangerous to me. If the countries of Europe had adopted such a measure in real life back in the 19th century, I could probably be a citizen of half a dozen nations. :p))

Since emigration out of Germany is practically non-existent I have no idea what you are prattling on about ((I'm assuming this is the case since there is no USA and hardly any "native" American nations)). What emigrants with "loyalty to a foreign power" are you talking about besides a small handful of native French who seek to return to their cultural motherland?

Mayhaps an amendment that would forbid duel citizenship would soothe you so that German citizenship cannot be inherited down throughout the generations without ever having set foot in the Republic?

-Herr Liberator

((Well he is the Liberator, what do you expect? :p

This is almost a decade after the 14th Amendment was passed in the USA so citizenship-by-birth wouldn't be so unprecedented but I understand the concern about perpetual inherited citizenship. It makes sense in the Liberator's worldview, though.))
 

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Since emigration out of Germany is practically non-existent I have no idea what you are prattling on about ((I'm assuming this is the case since there is no USA and hardly any "native" American nations)). What emigrants with "loyalty to a foreign power" are you talking about besides a small handful of native French who seek to return to their cultural motherland?

Mayhaps an amendment that would forbid duel citizenship would soothe you so that German citizenship cannot be inherited down throughout the generations without ever having set foot in the Republic?

-Herr Liberator

((Well he is the Liberator, what do you expect? :p

This is almost a decade after the 14th Amendment was passed in the USA so citizenship-by-birth wouldn't be so unprecedented but I understand the concern about perpetual inherited citizenship. It makes sense in the Liberator's worldview, though.))

I more imagined that such a thing would occur in places such as Plymouth where a neighbouring foreign power has a major presence. I wouldn't be surprised if many Germans moved into Britain and vice-versa.

That seems reasonable enough. I personally would be much more stringent with citizenship laws, but I am not unreasonable. I merely want to ensure that German citizenship is not abused by foreign powers. Loyalty to the German state is enough for me, and banning dual citizenship should allow for such a thing.

- Wilhelm von Vandenburg

((Yeah, I was just worried that it could be abused, although I suppose as fluff with no effect on the actual game it doesn't really matter. Liberate them from within, hmmm? :p))
 

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Ferdinand von Hohenzollern's request shows an inconsistent attitude towards the importance of family. First, he requests that his sentence be reduced on the basis that his son requires a father - but then he requests that Albrecht be completely separated from any other members of his extended family. This does not seem normal or reasonable.

Ferdinand has good-as-admitted that the reason for such a request is to ensure that Albrecht grows up to hold Ferdinand's own political views. Given that those political views include treason against the Republic, I see no reason why this request should be upheld by the court.

Furthermore, I know of no legal basis for a plea of leniency on the basis of parenthood. If there were, then far fewer executions would be carried out by the Republic's legal system. To give Ferdinand special treatment in this case on the basis of his esteemed surname would be, in my opinion, a gross miscarriage of justice.

No Mercy shall be given to the defendant.

Furthermore, I support Ferdinand's request of execution by firing squad and oppose the alternative proposals of execution by public or private hanging, and I strongly oppose the suggestion that the firing squad members be government figures. I also suggest that no special measures be taken by the court regarding Albrecht's relation with his extended family, either for or against - Ferdinand's wife (( does she have a name? I don't think she's been given one yet )) shall remain in custody of the child, and it shall ultimately remain her decision.