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Servatius van Kloeinge listens to the announcement of the ministers with dismay:

How quickly these men abandon liberalism disheartens to the core.
 

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No, this is the crowning achievement of liberalism. We have united the opposing political ideologies of the German people, creating a government that represents all spheres of political thought. This government will result in great things, and is the most beautiful government thus far conceived, not shutting out the socialists or conservatives, allowing all ideas to be heard. This is the beginning of a bright future.

~Frederick Carile, Minister of Finance
 

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A coalition with rightists and socialists! This is an outrage.

I am leaving the NLPD and returning to the HUN, the only party that truly cares about the spread if German liberty. I do not agree with their economic policies but their citizenship and military policies align exactly with my ideals. Besides, the NLPD has clearly abandoned the ideals of free trade and laissez-faire anyway.

-Herr Liberator
 

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Coalition of NLPD-NS-SP

The von Schwaben Cabinet:

Chancellor: Konrad von Schwaben (NLPD)
Minister of Interior and Deputy Chancellor: Karl Adimari (NS)
Minister of Foreign Affairs: Maximilian von Wittelsbach (NS)
Minister of Finance: Fredrick Carile (NLPD)
Minister of War: Hals Gutfreund (NLPD)
Minister of Education: Franz von Bavel-Timmermans (SP)
Minister of Social Affairs((The Modern Tribune)): Heinrich von Gogh (SP)

~ Konrad von Schwaben, Chancellor of the German Republic
Dr.Fellman previously planning to have a quite retirement upon seeing this cabinet and feeling rather vonidacted in his predictions goes out into town and spends the next week purchasing a struggling local paper The Nuremberg Press the first issue under the new management is said to be realsed shortly...
 

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((Yes, liberal newspapers.))
This cabinet is a travesty! Allowing socialists into the government is tantamount to treason, if only in my opinion. Perhaps it is fortunate then that my opinion does not determine the law. Germany deserves better.
~Statthalther von Spinoza
 

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I was under the impression that the NLPD was a Liberal party. My apologies for the misunderstanding.

- Ludwig Fredrik Andersen
 

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((Yes, liberal newspapers.))
This cabinet is a travesty! Allowing socialists into the government is tantamount to treason, if only in my opinion. Perhaps it is fortunate then that my opinion does not determine the law. Germany deserves better.
~Statthalther von Spinoza

How is being a socialist treason ? We wish the best for the people, and thus indirectly, the German state.I think this government is the first time truly everybody is represented in the government, not just one political stream.

Heinrich von Gogh, Leader of the SP and Minister of Social Affairs
 

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I find it amusing that the liberals of the Reichstag are more offended by this coalition than I am. This is very similar to the very coalition Herr Wittelsbach suggested during the whole UAI debacle. While I am of course always disheartened whenever a government ignores the Imperialist Party, I will put my trust in the conservative members of the New Society to keep this coalition in line. It is about time we get things done instead of whined about who's in power. I'm personally more concerned about this "Minister of Social Affairs" thing. Are we just making up ministries now? Is this supposed to be a replacement for the Head of the State Planning Commission, a position that no longer exists under the NLPD's liberal economic policies? I would like an explanation for such a thing, since surely no party or coalition has the power to create its own ministries without the support of the Reichstag.

- Wilhelm von Vandenburg
 

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I do not recall the liberals complaining under Bismarck, when they were given the right to key government positions. I think you lot need to suck it up.

- Wittelsbach
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A cabinet of Socialists... surely, the world has gone mad.

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A cabinet of Socialists... surely, the world has gone mad.

Michael von Hohenzollern
Herr von Hohenzollern, my apologies but it seems the SP has only 1 (undisputed) position in the cabinet? It is hardly what I would call a 'cabinet of socialists'.
- Adelbert af Ambroose
 

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Herr von Hohenzollern, my apologies but it seems the SP has only 1 (undisputed) position in the cabinet? It is hardly what I would call a 'cabinet of socialists'.
- Adelbert af Ambroose

The Chancellor is a Socialist, the Minister of Finance a Conservative. This thing... I don't know what it is, but I do know it is not the Liberal cabinet Germany deserves.

- Ludwig Fredrik Andersen
 

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I find it hilarious that it is now the liberals, who are slandering the cabinet. Shows that they are not so high and mighty themselves, eh? This behavior is deplorable.
 

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I find it hilarious that it is now the liberals, who are slandering the cabinet. Shows that they are not so high and mighty themselves, eh? This behavior is deplorable.

Sir, there is a great difference between slandering a public body and expressing opposition towards it. I personally have seen nothing but the latter – and when one considers that this has come almost exclusively from those whose job it is to oppose said body, I feel it entirely forgivable.

~Gerrit Aldo Servatius van Kloetinge
 

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Sir, there is a great difference between slandering a public body and expressing opposition towards it. I personally have seen nothing but the latter – and when one considers that this has come almost exclusively from those whose job it is to oppose said body, I feel it entirely forgivable.

~Gerrit Aldo Servatius van Kloetinge

Calling people socialists as a derogatory term hardly counts as proper opposition.
 

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Calling people socialists as a derogatory term hardly counts as proper opposition.

One can hardly be held accountable for how one's use of a certain word may be inferred. I can find no explicit examples of the word 'socialist' being used in a derogatory fashion in the minutes.
 

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((Yes, liberal newspapers.))
This cabinet is a travesty! Allowing socialists into the government is tantamount to treason, if only in my opinion. Perhaps it is fortunate then that my opinion does not determine the law. Germany deserves better.
~Statthalther von Spinoza

One can hardly be held accountable for how one's use of a certain word may be inferred. I can find no explicit examples of the word 'socialist' being used in a derogatory fashion in the minutes.
I would point you toward the words of one Herr Spinoza. Or is perhaps calling socialists 'treasonous' not derogatory in your eyes?
- Adelbert af Ambroose