Sonderweg oder Anderweg? -- An interactive AAR in the Hohenzollerns megacampaign

  • Crusader Kings II Expansion Subscription

    Subscribe to the CK II Expansion and enjoy unlimited access to 13 major expansions and more!


  • Paradox Midsummer Sale has arrived! Up to 75% off!

    Enjoy some sun and song this Midsummer, but when the sun goes down, the fun doesn't have to stop! Paradox has a festive sale on plenty of games to keep your summer nights going!


    June 18th - June 30th
  • Crusader Kings III Available Now!

    The realm rejoices as Paradox Interactive announces the launch of Crusader Kings III, the latest entry in the publisher’s grand strategy role-playing game franchise. Advisors may now jockey for positions of influence and adversaries should save their schemes for another day, because on this day Crusader Kings III can be purchased on Steam, the Paradox Store, and other major online retailers.


    Real Strategy Requires Cunning

Avindian

People's Commissar of the Navy
118 Badges
Jan 3, 2010
12.364
289
  • Crusader Kings II: Jade Dragon
  • Crusader Kings II: Way of Life
  • Crusader Kings II: Holy Knight (pre-order)
  • Cities: Skylines Deluxe Edition
  • Victoria 2: Heart of Darkness
  • Victoria 2: A House Divided
  • Supreme Ruler: Cold War
  • Stellaris: Apocalypse
  • Tyranny: Archon Edition
  • Imperator: Rome
  • Stellaris: Necroids
  • Sword of the Stars II
  • Victoria 2
  • 500k Club
  • Europa Universalis IV: El Dorado
  • Victoria 2 Beta
  • Pillars of Eternity
  • Europa Universalis IV: Common Sense
  • Crusader Kings II: Horse Lords
  • Crusader Kings II: Holy Fury
  • Knights of Pen and Paper 2
  • Surviving Mars: First Colony Edition
  • Crusader Kings II: Conclave
  • Cities: Skylines - Parklife Pre-Order
  • Cities: Skylines - Parklife
  • Hearts of Iron IV Sign-up
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Expansion Pass
  • Cities: Skylines - Natural Disasters
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Together for Victory
  • Crusader Kings II: Monks and Mystics
  • Shadowrun Returns
  • Europa Universalis IV: Mandate of Heaven
  • Shadowrun: Dragonfall
  • BATTLETECH
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Death or Dishonor
  • Stellaris: Synthetic Dawn
  • Shadowrun: Hong Kong
  • Tyranny - Bastards Wound
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cradle of Civilization
  • Stellaris: Humanoids Species Pack
  • Stellaris: Digital Anniversary Edition
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Stellaris: Distant Stars
  • Stellaris Sign-up
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Cadet
  • Crusader Kings II: Reapers Due
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rights of Man
  • Tyranny: Archon Edition
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
I remain thoroughly unconvinced by this suggestion that we should arbitrarily appease one group of socialist activists while suppressing the other.

If an activist group's angry demands would be detrimental to the Republic, such as those of our various separatist groups, then political suppression may - in isolated cases - be in the public interest. But to declare that one group of "social reformers" are a shining beacon of political enlightenment, while the other are factious rebels to be crushed under the the boot of the Gendarmerie, without even specifying which group is which, is to set oneself up as a tyrant or a lunatic.

Personally, I believe that our civil service knows little more about how to run hospitals and employ doctors than I do, and that this "socialised healthcare" will be a drain upon the public purse while drawing the nation's doctors into needless administrative overhead. Furthermore, I expect that a legally-enforced minimum wage will only serve to drive up prices, and will thus have no net effect at all upon the lot of the working class (though I am, as I have previously stated, in favour of a short-term experiment on minimum wage on the off chance that I am mistaken on this). But more importantly, I believe that a man should not be forced out of public meetings and interrogated by Gendarmes just because he happens to hold the wrong opinion.

I therefore oppose the political suppression of either activist group.

((Assembly votes on foreign policy/military; you can voice your opinion, naturally, but your vote does not count as far as the suppression issue goes. :)))
 

Gen. Marshall

Generalfeldmarschall
5 Badges
Apr 29, 2012
3.742
49
  • Hearts of Iron III
  • Hearts of Iron III: Their Finest Hour
  • March of the Eagles
  • Semper Fi
  • 500k Club
The UAI primaries have been concluded and I am glad to announce that the party has expressed its support for me as leader and electoral candidate. Let us now enter into another round of elections with confidence, knowing that Germany has already voted for a Liberal coalition this year and hoping that they will do so again! Our promise to lower taxes is still valid; and with the support of the people, we can proceed to make our promise a fact.

On the matter of suppressing a large part of our population, it is my opinion that no action so harsh should be taken against a (partially) non-violent group of people so poorly defined. Social reform is not my cup of tea, but can we really claim to represent the people when we crush every expression of disagreement? Perhaps, if we just allow protesters to say what they wish, they will not seek their refuge in radical Socialist organizations and make the matter infinitely worse. It is for this reason that I encourage my colleagues in the Conclave to vote against suppression and for democracy.

- Ludwig Fredrik Andersen
 

Avindian

People's Commissar of the Navy
118 Badges
Jan 3, 2010
12.364
289
  • Crusader Kings II: Jade Dragon
  • Crusader Kings II: Way of Life
  • Crusader Kings II: Holy Knight (pre-order)
  • Cities: Skylines Deluxe Edition
  • Victoria 2: Heart of Darkness
  • Victoria 2: A House Divided
  • Supreme Ruler: Cold War
  • Stellaris: Apocalypse
  • Tyranny: Archon Edition
  • Imperator: Rome
  • Stellaris: Necroids
  • Sword of the Stars II
  • Victoria 2
  • 500k Club
  • Europa Universalis IV: El Dorado
  • Victoria 2 Beta
  • Pillars of Eternity
  • Europa Universalis IV: Common Sense
  • Crusader Kings II: Horse Lords
  • Crusader Kings II: Holy Fury
  • Knights of Pen and Paper 2
  • Surviving Mars: First Colony Edition
  • Crusader Kings II: Conclave
  • Cities: Skylines - Parklife Pre-Order
  • Cities: Skylines - Parklife
  • Hearts of Iron IV Sign-up
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Expansion Pass
  • Cities: Skylines - Natural Disasters
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Together for Victory
  • Crusader Kings II: Monks and Mystics
  • Shadowrun Returns
  • Europa Universalis IV: Mandate of Heaven
  • Shadowrun: Dragonfall
  • BATTLETECH
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Death or Dishonor
  • Stellaris: Synthetic Dawn
  • Shadowrun: Hong Kong
  • Tyranny - Bastards Wound
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cradle of Civilization
  • Stellaris: Humanoids Species Pack
  • Stellaris: Digital Anniversary Edition
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Stellaris: Distant Stars
  • Stellaris Sign-up
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Cadet
  • Crusader Kings II: Reapers Due
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rights of Man
  • Tyranny: Archon Edition
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
The suppression plan fails, 28 to 65 votes.

Although minimum wage passes in the Conclave with 58 votes, all reforms are defeated in the Assembly, as 256 votes vote in favor of no reform.

Ministers, please submit your proposals for this six month interim.
 

Idhrendur

Keeper of the Converters
103 Badges
Feb 27, 2009
10.317
1.529
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Sengoku
  • Pillars of Eternity
  • Tyranny: Archon Edition
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • March of the Eagles
  • Victoria 2
  • 500k Club
  • Stellaris: Galaxy Edition
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Colonel
  • Shadowrun Returns
  • Imperator: Rome Deluxe Edition
  • Crusader Kings III: Royal Edition
  • Commander: Conquest of the Americas
  • Darkest Hour
Herr von Oldenburg, I would suggest the following focuses in education, especially as we are trying an experiment of allowing industry to operate outside the realm of governmental control:

Steam Turbines would allow our mines and farms to create even more raw materials for our factories, decreasing our dependence on other nations.
I hear that some firms have begun using assembly lines. These firms should have their methods studied and applied in general, as this looks to massively increase our industry's efficiency.
Advanced metallurgy is within our grasp. The benefits to development of these techniques would be without measure.
With our increase in steel production, we can make steel railroads, but we need to solve some engineering issues first.
I hear some chemists have begun research into organic chemistry. If what half of their promises are true, this could open up entirely new areas of production.
Business banks would have many beneficial effects on business, making it easier for private investors to start new businesses, and would additionally allow us to raise more taxes.
Specifying particular banks that can print bills (( private bank money bill printing )) would improve the flow of money, improving our ability to tax, and allowing us to better pay our bureaucrats, giving us more efficient administration.
Improved business regulations would greatly improve the ability of our business men to innovate, and also for us to tax them appropriately.

(( but it's 1870, so really, Analytic Philosophy should top your list ))


Herr Carile,
I am not sure if your authority extends to determining specific industrial subsidies, but I would point out that the subsidized factories in Hessen and Pomerania were never part of the industrial plan. As well, clippers are becoming obsolete, so if I were in control of our industry, the factories Venetia and German Croatia would likely be removed from the plan. With no ministry however, I could not estimate what the consequences of removing subsidies might be.

FM
 

alxeu

Hunting werewolves.
94 Badges
Feb 11, 2012
1.797
248
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Rome: Vae Victis
  • Victoria 2: Heart of Darkness
  • Victoria 2: A House Divided
  • Sengoku
  • Semper Fi
  • Victoria: Revolutions
  • March of the Eagles
  • Magicka
  • Hearts of Iron III: Their Finest Hour
  • Hearts of Iron III
  • For the Motherland
  • For The Glory
  • Tyranny: Gold Edition
  • Darkest Hour
  • Europa Universalis IV: Common Sense
  • Stellaris: Leviathans Story Pack
  • Crusader Kings Complete
  • Arsenal of Democracy
  • 500k Club
  • Crusader Kings II: Monks and Mystics
  • Crusader Kings II: Reapers Due
  • Europa Universalis IV: El Dorado
  • Tyranny - Bastards Wound
  • Crusader Kings II: Way of Life
  • Stellaris: Distant Stars
  • Crusader Kings II: Horse Lords
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cossacks
  • Crusader Kings II: Conclave
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Cadet
  • Stellaris
  • Hearts of Iron IV Sign-up
  • Stellaris Sign-up
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rule Britannia
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Together for Victory
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Death or Dishonor
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rights of Man
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cradle of Civilization
  • Cities: Skylines - Parklife
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Expansion Pass
  • Europa Universalis 4: Emperor
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Victoria 2
  • Tyranny: Archon Edition
  • Stellaris: Synthetic Dawn
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Age of Wonders III
  • Tyranny: Archon Edition
  • Europa Universalis IV: Mandate of Heaven
  • Stellaris: Humanoids Species Pack
My financial plan is simple:

Reduce taxes where possible while keeping spending as high on possible on education, administration, and military spending while at war.

I believe we have a ministry in charge of factories, and I will let them decide what needs subsidizing and what doesn't.

~Frederick Carile
 

Andre Massena

Warrior-Representative Fanatic
43 Badges
Sep 23, 2013
7.692
1.609
  • Crusader Kings II: Charlemagne
  • Victoria 2: Heart of Darkness
  • Victoria 2: A House Divided
  • Semper Fi
  • Victoria: Revolutions
  • Europa Universalis IV: Res Publica
  • Heir to the Throne
  • Hearts of Iron III: Their Finest Hour
  • Hearts of Iron III
  • For the Motherland
  • Europa Universalis IV: Wealth of Nations
  • Europa Universalis IV: Conquest of Paradise
  • Europa Universalis IV: Art of War
  • Divine Wind
  • Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome
  • Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods
  • Crusader Kings II: Rajas of India
  • Crusader Kings II: The Republic
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Crusader Kings II: Sunset Invasion
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
  • Darkest Hour
  • Europa Universalis III
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Crusader Kings III
  • Crusader Kings II: Holy Fury
  • Crusader Kings II: Jade Dragon
  • Crusader Kings III: Royal Edition
  • Crusader Kings II: Monks and Mystics
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Together for Victory
  • Crusader Kings II: Reapers Due
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Cadet
  • Crusader Kings II: Conclave
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cossacks
  • Crusader Kings II: Horse Lords
  • Europa Universalis IV: Common Sense
  • Crusader Kings II: Way of Life
  • Europa Universalis IV: El Dorado
  • Victoria 2
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Europa Universalis IV
Herr von Oldenburg, I would suggest the following focuses in education, especially as we are trying an experiment of allowing industry to operate outside the realm of governmental control:

Steam Turbines would allow our mines and farms to create even more raw materials for our factories, decreasing our dependence on other nations.
I hear that some firms have begun using assembly lines. These firms should have their methods studied and applied in general, as this looks to massively increase our industry's efficiency.
Advanced metallurgy is within our grasp. The benefits to development of these techniques would be without measure.
With our increase in steel production, we can make steel railroads, but we need to solve some engineering issues first.
I hear some chemists have begun research into organic chemistry. If what half of their promises are true, this could open up entirely new areas of production.
Business banks would have many beneficial effects on business, making it easier for private investors to start new businesses, and would additionally allow us to raise more taxes.
Specifying particular banks that can print bills (( private bank money bill printing )) would improve the flow of money, improving our ability to tax, and allowing us to better pay our bureaucrats, giving us more efficient administration.
Improved business regulations would greatly improve the ability of our business men to innovate, and also for us to tax them appropriately.

(( but it's 1870, so really, Analytic Philosophy should top your list ))


Herr Carile,
I am not sure if your authority extends to determining specific industrial subsidies, but I would point out that the subsidized factories in Hessen and Pomerania were never part of the industrial plan. As well, clippers are becoming obsolete, so if I were in control of our industry, the factories Venetia and German Croatia would likely be removed from the plan. With no ministry however, I could not estimate what the consequences of removing subsidies might be.

FM

((One of the very few good tech plan ICs I have seen :p))
 

Jack LEagle

Captain
4 Badges
Sep 26, 2011
486
12
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Hearts of Iron III: Their Finest Hour
  • Victoria 2
  • 500k Club
Herr von Oldenburg, I would suggest the following focuses in education, especially as we are trying an experiment of allowing industry to operate outside the realm of governmental control:

Steam Turbines would allow our mines and farms to create even more raw materials for our factories, decreasing our dependence on other nations.
I hear that some firms have begun using assembly lines. These firms should have their methods studied and applied in general, as this looks to massively increase our industry's efficiency.
Advanced metallurgy is within our grasp. The benefits to development of these techniques would be without measure.
With our increase in steel production, we can make steel railroads, but we need to solve some engineering issues first.
I hear some chemists have begun research into organic chemistry. If what half of their promises are true, this could open up entirely new areas of production.
Business banks would have many beneficial effects on business, making it easier for private investors to start new businesses, and would additionally allow us to raise more taxes.
Specifying particular banks that can print bills (( private bank money bill printing )) would improve the flow of money, improving our ability to tax, and allowing us to better pay our bureaucrats, giving us more efficient administration.
Improved business regulations would greatly improve the ability of our business men to innovate, and also for us to tax them appropriately.

(( but it's 1870, so really, Analytic Philosophy should top your list ))

FM


This is an impressive, rational list. But I feel compelled o repeat a point I made a few days ago:


Permit me to add Raider Group Doctrine to this list, and beg, plead, cajole, argue for, and, if necessary, throw a tantrum to get it researched as soon as possible. If we wish to build a modern navy, we must expand some of our bases to lvl 3, and this will permit us to do so.



Hals Gutfreund, Minister of War
 

Avindian

People's Commissar of the Navy
118 Badges
Jan 3, 2010
12.364
289
  • Crusader Kings II: Jade Dragon
  • Crusader Kings II: Way of Life
  • Crusader Kings II: Holy Knight (pre-order)
  • Cities: Skylines Deluxe Edition
  • Victoria 2: Heart of Darkness
  • Victoria 2: A House Divided
  • Supreme Ruler: Cold War
  • Stellaris: Apocalypse
  • Tyranny: Archon Edition
  • Imperator: Rome
  • Stellaris: Necroids
  • Sword of the Stars II
  • Victoria 2
  • 500k Club
  • Europa Universalis IV: El Dorado
  • Victoria 2 Beta
  • Pillars of Eternity
  • Europa Universalis IV: Common Sense
  • Crusader Kings II: Horse Lords
  • Crusader Kings II: Holy Fury
  • Knights of Pen and Paper 2
  • Surviving Mars: First Colony Edition
  • Crusader Kings II: Conclave
  • Cities: Skylines - Parklife Pre-Order
  • Cities: Skylines - Parklife
  • Hearts of Iron IV Sign-up
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Expansion Pass
  • Cities: Skylines - Natural Disasters
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Together for Victory
  • Crusader Kings II: Monks and Mystics
  • Shadowrun Returns
  • Europa Universalis IV: Mandate of Heaven
  • Shadowrun: Dragonfall
  • BATTLETECH
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Death or Dishonor
  • Stellaris: Synthetic Dawn
  • Shadowrun: Hong Kong
  • Tyranny - Bastards Wound
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cradle of Civilization
  • Stellaris: Humanoids Species Pack
  • Stellaris: Digital Anniversary Edition
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Stellaris: Distant Stars
  • Stellaris Sign-up
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Cadet
  • Crusader Kings II: Reapers Due
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rights of Man
  • Tyranny: Archon Edition
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
My financial plan is simple:

Reduce taxes where possible while keeping spending as high on possible on education, administration, and military spending while at war.

I believe we have a ministry in charge of factories, and I will let them decide what needs subsidizing and what doesn't.

~Frederick Carile

Herr Carile,

With the conservatives out of power, all financial matters fall under your purvey. Herr Meier may assist, naturally, but the decisions are yours.

Michael von Hohenzollern
 

alxeu

Hunting werewolves.
94 Badges
Feb 11, 2012
1.797
248
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Rome: Vae Victis
  • Victoria 2: Heart of Darkness
  • Victoria 2: A House Divided
  • Sengoku
  • Semper Fi
  • Victoria: Revolutions
  • March of the Eagles
  • Magicka
  • Hearts of Iron III: Their Finest Hour
  • Hearts of Iron III
  • For the Motherland
  • For The Glory
  • Tyranny: Gold Edition
  • Darkest Hour
  • Europa Universalis IV: Common Sense
  • Stellaris: Leviathans Story Pack
  • Crusader Kings Complete
  • Arsenal of Democracy
  • 500k Club
  • Crusader Kings II: Monks and Mystics
  • Crusader Kings II: Reapers Due
  • Europa Universalis IV: El Dorado
  • Tyranny - Bastards Wound
  • Crusader Kings II: Way of Life
  • Stellaris: Distant Stars
  • Crusader Kings II: Horse Lords
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cossacks
  • Crusader Kings II: Conclave
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Cadet
  • Stellaris
  • Hearts of Iron IV Sign-up
  • Stellaris Sign-up
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rule Britannia
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Together for Victory
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Death or Dishonor
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rights of Man
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cradle of Civilization
  • Cities: Skylines - Parklife
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Expansion Pass
  • Europa Universalis 4: Emperor
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Victoria 2
  • Tyranny: Archon Edition
  • Stellaris: Synthetic Dawn
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Age of Wonders III
  • Tyranny: Archon Edition
  • Europa Universalis IV: Mandate of Heaven
  • Stellaris: Humanoids Species Pack
Well then, I shall only subsidize factories with a large worker base that aren't being quite successful.

If a small factory isn't doing well, but it is necessary to supply other factories, subsidize it as well.

This is a temporary plan until I can get better advise on how to subsidize factories, I just... wasn't expecting to have to run the factories.

~Fredick Carile

((PS Can I get a look at our factories, really only the ones that need subsidizing, if possible.))
 

GreatUberGeek

Count of the Netflix Binge-Watch
4 Badges
Aug 8, 2013
2.389
12
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Victoria 2
  • Hearts of Iron IV Sign-up
((Meier is no longer minister of industry, all is lost, all is lost.
Andre, is mIRC an app I can get on the iPad?))
I am glad to see the freedom of Germans upheld in the face of tyranny. Three cheers for liberty!
~Statthalther von Spinoza
 

Idhrendur

Keeper of the Converters
103 Badges
Feb 27, 2009
10.317
1.529
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Sengoku
  • Pillars of Eternity
  • Tyranny: Archon Edition
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • March of the Eagles
  • Victoria 2
  • 500k Club
  • Stellaris: Galaxy Edition
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Colonel
  • Shadowrun Returns
  • Imperator: Rome Deluxe Edition
  • Crusader Kings III: Royal Edition
  • Commander: Conquest of the Americas
  • Darkest Hour
((Meier is no longer minister of industry, all is lost, all is lost.))

(( I was going to retire him in a few years anyways. Now there's a transition period of him begging for what he wants instead of just making it happen. If the state planning commission comes back beyond his time, I do have notes to pass on to whoever takes over. ))
 

Sakura_F

Stadtholder of Turin
65 Badges
Apr 6, 2011
2.626
205
  • Victoria 2: A House Divided
  • Europa Universalis IV: Call to arms event
  • For the Motherland
  • Hearts of Iron III
  • Hearts of Iron III: Their Finest Hour
  • Heir to the Throne
  • Europa Universalis IV: Res Publica
  • Victoria: Revolutions
  • Semper Fi
  • Crusader Kings II: Charlemagne
  • Victoria 2: Heart of Darkness
  • Stellaris - Path to Destruction bundle
  • Europa Universalis IV: Pre-order
  • Crusader Kings II: Way of Life
  • Europa Universalis IV: Mare Nostrum
  • Crusader Kings II: Jade Dragon
  • Cities: Skylines - Natural Disasters
  • Crusader Kings II: Sunset Invasion
  • Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods
  • Crusader Kings II: Rajas of India
  • Crusader Kings II: The Republic
  • Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Darkest Hour
  • Europa Universalis III
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Europa Universalis IV: Wealth of Nations
  • Divine Wind
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Europa Universalis IV: Art of War
  • Europa Universalis IV: Conquest of Paradise
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Together for Victory
  • Crusader Kings II: Monks and Mystics
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rights of Man
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Colonel
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Cadet
  • Stellaris Sign-up
  • Hearts of Iron IV Sign-up
  • Stellaris
  • Crusader Kings II: Conclave
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cossacks
  • Battle for Bosporus
  • Europa Universalis IV: Common Sense
  • Victoria 2 Beta
  • Europa Universalis IV: El Dorado
  • 500k Club
  • Victoria 2
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
((tbh I have no idea what to do now that the Conservatives are out of power. I don't want to be an obstructionist, but if the Liberals aren't going to try and make friends with the Conservatives, then I've got nothing to do other than observe.))

Edited for language -- Avindian
 
Last edited by a moderator:

DutchGuy

Swampman
57 Badges
Jan 19, 2013
1.064
65
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Victoria 2: A House Divided
  • Victoria 2: Heart of Darkness
  • Europa Universalis IV: El Dorado
  • Victoria 2
  • Crusader Kings II: Reapers Due
  • War of the Roses
  • 500k Club
  • Europa Universalis III: Collection
  • Europa Universalis IV: Dharma
  • Mount & Blade: Warband
  • Mount & Blade: With Fire and Sword
  • Crusader Kings II: Way of Life
  • Europa Universalis IV: Common Sense
  • Crusader Kings II: Horse Lords
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cossacks
  • Crusader Kings II: Conclave
  • Europa Universalis IV: Mare Nostrum
  • Stellaris
  • Stellaris: Galaxy Edition
  • Crusader Kings III
  • Surviving Mars: Digital Deluxe Edition
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cradle of Civilization
  • Surviving Mars
  • Imperator: Rome
  • Europa Universalis IV: Mandate of Heaven
  • Stellaris - Path to Destruction bundle
  • Crusader Kings II: Monks and Mystics
  • Stellaris: Leviathans Story Pack
  • Stellaris: Digital Anniversary Edition
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rights of Man
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Europa Universalis IV: Golden Century
  • Crusader Kings II: Holy Fury
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Victoria: Revolutions
  • Heir to the Throne
  • Divine Wind
  • Crusader Kings II: Charlemagne
  • Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome
  • Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods
  • Crusader Kings II: Rajas of India
  • Crusader Kings II: The Republic
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Crusader Kings II: Sunset Invasion
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
  • Darkest Hour
  • Europa Universalis III
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
((tbh I have no idea what to do now that the Conservatives are out of power. I don't want to be an obstructionist, but if the Liberals aren't going to try and make friends with the Conservatives, then I've got nothing to do other than observe.))
(Come talk to me.Maybe we can work something out.))
 
Last edited by a moderator:

Andre Massena

Warrior-Representative Fanatic
43 Badges
Sep 23, 2013
7.692
1.609
  • Crusader Kings II: Charlemagne
  • Victoria 2: Heart of Darkness
  • Victoria 2: A House Divided
  • Semper Fi
  • Victoria: Revolutions
  • Europa Universalis IV: Res Publica
  • Heir to the Throne
  • Hearts of Iron III: Their Finest Hour
  • Hearts of Iron III
  • For the Motherland
  • Europa Universalis IV: Wealth of Nations
  • Europa Universalis IV: Conquest of Paradise
  • Europa Universalis IV: Art of War
  • Divine Wind
  • Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome
  • Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods
  • Crusader Kings II: Rajas of India
  • Crusader Kings II: The Republic
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Crusader Kings II: Sunset Invasion
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
  • Darkest Hour
  • Europa Universalis III
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Crusader Kings III
  • Crusader Kings II: Holy Fury
  • Crusader Kings II: Jade Dragon
  • Crusader Kings III: Royal Edition
  • Crusader Kings II: Monks and Mystics
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Together for Victory
  • Crusader Kings II: Reapers Due
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Cadet
  • Crusader Kings II: Conclave
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cossacks
  • Crusader Kings II: Horse Lords
  • Europa Universalis IV: Common Sense
  • Crusader Kings II: Way of Life
  • Europa Universalis IV: El Dorado
  • Victoria 2
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Europa Universalis IV
This is an impressive, rational list. But I feel compelled o repeat a point I made a few days ago:


Permit me to add Raider Group Doctrine to this list, and beg, plead, cajole, argue for, and, if necessary, throw a tantrum to get it researched as soon as possible. If we wish to build a modern navy, we must expand some of our bases to lvl 3, and this will permit us to do so.



Hals Gutfreund, Minister of War

Yes, Germany needs modern ships for modern liberation.

May you inform me what a "level 3" base is, Herr Gutfreund?

-Herr Liberator
 

DensleyBlair

Outside Agitator (they/them)
39 Badges
Jul 29, 2012
10.559
1.653
  • Europa Universalis 4: Emperor
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Victoria 2: Heart of Darkness
  • Victoria 2: A House Divided
  • Sengoku
  • Semper Fi
  • March of the Eagles
  • Heir to the Throne
  • Hearts of Iron III
  • For the Motherland
  • Europa Universalis IV: Call to arms event
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Divine Wind
  • Darkest Hour
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
  • Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome
  • Crusader Kings II: The Republic
  • Crusader Kings II: Way of Life
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Expansion Pass
  • Europa Universalis IV: Common Sense
  • Stellaris
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Cadet
  • Crusader Kings II: Reapers Due
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rights of Man
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Together for Victory
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Death or Dishonor
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Expansion Pass
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rule Britannia
  • Europa Universalis IV: Pre-order
  • 500k Club
  • Victoria 2
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Europa Universalis IV: Res Publica
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Europa Universalis III
  • Europa Universalis III: Chronicles
  • Cities: Skylines
((tbh I have no idea what to do now that the Conservatives are out of power. I don't want to be an obstructionist [...], but if the Liberals aren't going to try and make friends with the Conservatives, then I've got nothing to do other than observe.))

((I do feel it pertinent to mention that some of us lefty types haven't had anything to do but observe for quite a while. In AARs such as this, one just has to accept that one won't be in power all of the time.))
 

Sakura_F

Stadtholder of Turin
65 Badges
Apr 6, 2011
2.626
205
  • Victoria 2: A House Divided
  • Europa Universalis IV: Call to arms event
  • For the Motherland
  • Hearts of Iron III
  • Hearts of Iron III: Their Finest Hour
  • Heir to the Throne
  • Europa Universalis IV: Res Publica
  • Victoria: Revolutions
  • Semper Fi
  • Crusader Kings II: Charlemagne
  • Victoria 2: Heart of Darkness
  • Stellaris - Path to Destruction bundle
  • Europa Universalis IV: Pre-order
  • Crusader Kings II: Way of Life
  • Europa Universalis IV: Mare Nostrum
  • Crusader Kings II: Jade Dragon
  • Cities: Skylines - Natural Disasters
  • Crusader Kings II: Sunset Invasion
  • Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods
  • Crusader Kings II: Rajas of India
  • Crusader Kings II: The Republic
  • Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Darkest Hour
  • Europa Universalis III
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Europa Universalis IV: Wealth of Nations
  • Divine Wind
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Europa Universalis IV: Art of War
  • Europa Universalis IV: Conquest of Paradise
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Together for Victory
  • Crusader Kings II: Monks and Mystics
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rights of Man
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Colonel
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Cadet
  • Stellaris Sign-up
  • Hearts of Iron IV Sign-up
  • Stellaris
  • Crusader Kings II: Conclave
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cossacks
  • Battle for Bosporus
  • Europa Universalis IV: Common Sense
  • Victoria 2 Beta
  • Europa Universalis IV: El Dorado
  • 500k Club
  • Victoria 2
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
((I do feel it pertinent to mention that some of us lefty types haven't had anything to do but observe for quite a while. In AARs such as this, one just has to accept that one won't be in power all of the time.))

((Very true. I felt bad saying it but eh, I just felt like whining.))
 

LatinKaiser

Je me souviens des jours anciens et je pleure
51 Badges
Mar 29, 2014
1.638
2.340
  • Crusader Kings II: Holy Fury
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cossacks
  • Crusader Kings II: Horse Lords
  • Europa Universalis IV: Common Sense
  • Crusader Kings II: Way of Life
  • Europa Universalis IV: El Dorado
  • War of the Roses
  • Crusader Kings II: Conclave
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Victoria 2
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Stellaris
  • Europa Universalis IV: Dharma
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Expansion Pass
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Cadet
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cradle of Civilization
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Death or Dishonor
  • Crusader Kings II: Reapers Due
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rights of Man
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Together for Victory
  • Crusader Kings II: Monks and Mystics
  • Europa Universalis IV: Wealth of Nations
  • For the Motherland
  • Hearts of Iron III
  • March of the Eagles
  • Europa Universalis IV: Res Publica
  • Victoria 2: A House Divided
  • Victoria 2: Heart of Darkness
  • Europa Universalis IV: Conquest of Paradise
  • Europa Universalis IV: Art of War
  • Crusader Kings II: Rajas of India
  • Crusader Kings II: The Republic
  • Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Crusader Kings II: Charlemagne
  • Crusader Kings II: Sunset Invasion
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
  • Darkest Hour
  • Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods
  • Europa Universalis IV: Third Rome