Someone stop the Seljuks

[Yakman]

The problem I'm having with the 14th century Seljuks [Grand Campaign] is that they have insane stats--20+ in three categories and not shabby in the last.

 

[unmerged(47151)]

The problem I'm having with the 14th century Seljuks [Grand Campaign] is that they have insane stats--20+ in three categories and not shabby in the last.

That's why we definately don't need Michael inheriting.

 

[Stefanos]

It's good to see that my perceptions of Byzantine weakness aren't unique. I have yet to see a game in a recent beta where Byzantium contols Constantinople [or more than a half-dozen provinces, in fact] by 1110.

 

[Yakman]

It's good to see that my perceptions of Byzantine weakness aren't unique. I have yet to see a game in a recent beta where Byzantium contols Constantinople [or more than a half-dozen provinces, in fact] by 1110.

But if Byzantium is not broken up, it's WAY more powerful than the islamic states around it.

I don't see a problem with an early BYZ collapse--but the problem is that it never re-forms.

 

[Stefanos]

I don't have a problem with Byzantine collapse either. I *do*, however, have a problem with the Seljuks taking Constantinople alomst every game by the early 12th Century

 

[unmerged(47151)]

But if Byzantium is not broken up, it's WAY more powerful than the islamic states around it.

I don't see a problem with an early BYZ collapse--but the problem is that it never re-forms.

Collapse, yes, civil war, yes, total muslim conquest- No.

And what Muslim states are you talking about, not the Seljuks at any rate.

 

[Veldmaarschalk]

Collapse, yes, civil war, yes, total muslim conquest- No.

And what Muslim states are you talking about, not the Seljuks at any rate.

Before the Byzantine break-up events were introduced, the Byzantines were the most powerfull realm in CK, even more powerfull then Germany/Italy/Burgundy. The current events have no made it to weak, so I guess they need some tweaking.

 

[unmerged(48100)]

Before the Byzantine break-up events were introduced, the Byzantines were the most powerfull realm in CK, even more powerfull then Germany/Italy/Burgundy. The current events have no made it to weak, so I guess they need some tweaking.

I have changed all break-up events and it also collapses and is 9 of 10 times weak.