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mainley because we are awesome, that and most other games here are super charged to 80+$
Imagine majors can strike a special kind of a deal and then allocate a certain amount of their IC into upgrading units of a smaller country in their alliance with their own grade of equipment. This way Australia, Canada, Manchukuo and such wouldn't have to tech up their own rifles, rather gear up on doctrines and get ready to bust some punks. Minor/puppet AI could just stop teching up in the area where they are covered by their big brother. I don't think giving better infantry guns to Canada, Australia and New Zealand would cripple UK's or US' IC...
Playing them immediately would become a whole different kind of fun. If 1/5 of sales is Australia/Canada appeasing them with an extra bone thrown down the Commonwealth alley is in order.
Playing them immediately would become a whole different kind of fun. If 1/5 of sales is Australia/Canada appeasing them with an extra bone thrown down the Commonwealth alley is in order.
Imagine majors can strike a special kind of a deal and then allocate a certain amount of their IC into upgrading units of a smaller country in their alliance with their own grade of equipment. This way Australia, Canada, Manchukuo and such wouldn't have to tech up their own rifles, rather gear up on doctrines and get ready to bust some punks. Minor/puppet AI could just stop teching up in the area where they are covered by their big brother. I don't think giving better infantry guns to Canada, Australia and New Zealand would cripple UK's or US' IC...
Playing them immediately would become a whole different kind of fun. If 1/5 of sales is Australia/Canada appeasing them with an extra bone thrown down the Commonwealth alley is in order.
I don't know if I agree about the IC idea (the country should have to contribute at least some IC into upgrades) but I certainly think that a major's tech advances should have a flow on effect on the smaller countries (within the same alliance). After all, Australia didn't 'reinvent' the Beauforts, Beaufighters and Mustangs that were manufactured in Australian factories (though there were some improvements made).
We're a bit OT in this topic, anyway there's already something like this in the game: during the war you can buy (most of the time for free or for a very small fee) from your faction leader production licenses. You'll have to use your own IC, but will build the units with the seller's techs. IIRC, these units won't upgrade when the seller techs up, but that's quite logical: even today, countries tend not to export their best gear even to their closest allies, at least for major weapons systems like airplanes. They tune down avionics, the EW suite and so on or they can keep secret sensible techs (like some stealthness and software for the F-35) or won't sell them at all (recently, IIRC, US refused to sell the F-22 to Japan, that's a strategic ally and probably will be even more important on the medium-long term).
I think the system is already fine as it is
I think the system is already fine as it is
As I said earlier, Aussie dollars are worth more than US ones, so maybe $90 USD. Probably about 60 euros. Brick-and-mortar-store games here would cost pretty much exactly the same.
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We're a bit OT in this topic, anyway there's already something like this in the game: during the war you can buy (most of the time for free or for a very small fee) from your faction leader production licenses. You'll have to use your own IC, but will build the units with the seller's techs. IIRC, these units won't upgrade when the seller techs up, but that's quite logical: even today, countries tend not to export their best gear even to their closest allies, at least for major weapons systems like airplanes. They tune down avionics, the EW suite and so on or they can keep secret sensible techs (like some stealthness and software for the F-35) or won't sell them at all (recently, IIRC, US refused to sell the F-22 to Japan, that's a strategic ally and probably will be even more important on the medium-long term).
I think the system is already fine as it is
Yes, but two problems: New Zealand in particular, but other Dominions as well, didn't just license tech - they imported it. New Zealand for example had several ex RN Leanders, a brigade of Shermans and other armoured vehicles, thousands of pilots in NZ owned but American built Corsairs, Avengers etc - or even just outright serving in the RAF. In HoI2 there was the ability to buy units, which came close to representing this.
Secondly, they would get all the new toys, they were essentially treated as British divisions, with a few peculiarities. If you look at the Brazilian expeditionary force it took that to an extreme, only with American equipment. There needs to be some representation of that to let playing minors be both fun and more representative of what happened.
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So essentially it would be a way to represent the Land-Lease act. Maybe a PI dev could tell how tricky woule be implementing this and if they are considering doing it, but in the meantime it could probably be simulated through player-made events/decisions.
Yep - lend-lease, Commonwealth Air Training Plan, all those sorts of arrangements. New Zealand didn't even have a seperate navy till about '41, it was a division of the RN - there was no need to have the capacity or know how to build ships, just the men to serve.
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New Zealand is about 7% of Oceania sales. Ironically, New Zealand has more sales than entire eastern europe..
Brazil and Russia is about at 1% each..
Brazil and Russia is about at 1% each..
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USA
United Kingdom
Germany
Australia
Canada
France
Sweden
Norway
Denmark
Japan
Netherlands
Finland
are the big countries...
then its..
Spain
Belgium
Italy
Austria
Korea
Brazil
Switzerland
New Zealand
Turkey
China
Ireland
Singapore
Taiwan
Portugal
Poland
Iceland
and then we're down to countries like Hong Kong, Luxermburg, Hungary, UAE, Israel..
It seems having a large population of English-speakers is the best sign of a good Paradox market.
I wonder if these figures are roughly borne out in other titles, i.e. is this what we could expect if we got numbers for EU3 and V2?
were there any sales of liechtenstein?
I'm more curious about mother Russia.
Germany likes physical copies. SF and FtM are sold on CD in Germany, so I would expect the numbers to be larger if you include physical retail. Johan's numbers are probably just statistics "dumps" from the online retailers. Note: I have no idea, it's just my personal guess.
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