Some rivers should be navigable by naval units

[rzz41]

River warfare has been an important aspect of warfare throughout history. below are 3 examples:
-Brown water navies have been used in african rivers by european powers in colonial conquests.
-China has a long history of using navies on the yang tze river to prevent the advancement of armies.
-Navies sailed up and down the Mississippi river and blockaded various cities throughout the american civil war

I propose that certain large rivers should require that armies can only cross by loading on and off transports as is the case in real history.

some gameplay advantages of allowing navies to navigate certain large rivers are:
1) Increases the importance of navies even more. Want to invade that country across the large river? you need to beat their navy or your army will never be able to cross the river.
2) Some trade nodes sit on major rivers but cannot be protected by light ships due to not being a maritime trade node. this isnt very realistic as ships can access those nodes by navigating rivers. examples include:
-Ohio trade node can be accessed through the hudson river
-Chendu and Xian trade nodes can be accessed through the yangtze river
-Doab trade node can be access by various rivers in india

 

[magnusvejby]

Well, if this gets implemented properly this could be a very cool addition to naval gameplay. I support this.

 

[BrokenSky]

I think it would be cool if large ships could not navigate rivers, also battles would be difficult; you'd have to find some way of letting armies engage with navies? More likely to capture defeated ships though.

 

[ThePatriotOfDreumel]

We also have the Nile, Rhine, danube and amazon as possible candidates.

 

[Salje]

I propose that certain large rivers should require that armies can only cross by loading on and off transports as is the case in real history.

While other parts sound all right, this one would be quite weird considering that even currently you don't need transports to hop over even larger distances(you can walk armies from Scotland to Ireland, for example).

 

[BrokenSky]

While other parts sound all right, this one would be quite weird considering that even currently you don't need transports to hop over even larger distances(you can walk armies from Scotland to Ireland, for example).

Yes. Rivers should get navigable straits along them.

 

[ShadowCammy]

Wasn't the Danube also traversed often by naval ships, or trade ships? That could also be an important river to add, as well, if it's true.

 

[celethiel]

so essentually something like some of the rivers in Crusader kings...?

 

[Salje]

so essentually something like some of the rivers in Crusader kings...?

Yeah, only navigable by countries of Norse religion...

 

[celethiel]

Yeah, only navigable by countries of Norse religion...

could you sail a frigate up the Nile, Mississippi, Amazon, Niger, or Danube? the best you should be able to sail up these rivers would be possibly a galley or a Transport.... even then.

 

[magnusvejby]

I think it would be cool if large ships could not navigate rivers, also battles would be difficult; you'd have to find some way of letting armies engage with navies? More likely to capture defeated ships though.

Oh this idea i like very much, maybe the land forces should engage as a normal land battle but they would have -90% (Or maybe less) effeciency, and only at a max 7 combat width.

 

[freedavebrown]

Along the same lines I think rivers (and mountain passes) should have more inherent value when fighting wars etc. Basically the entire 30 years war was about controlling the rivers in Germany. Most wars are about control of navigable waterways. Introduction of fort mechanics is a step in the right direction here because those were the other important areas to control but basically everyone just built forts to control rivers and passes. . .

 

[TheDungen]

If they can make it work then definatly yes, ribers should be more boundaries, and also the pulsing veins of some areas (germany for an example). But thta's assuming that they can actualy fix the main navalgame.

 

[3ishop]

I could see this work well with some of the other features, put an explorer in charge of a light ship and he can get a mission to find the source of the Nile!

 

[Homusubi]

I'm pretty sure you could sail ships down the Danube or Rhine that would be big by EU4-timeframe standards. The Rhine is a major shipping route to this day.

 

[ThePatriotOfDreumel]

I'm pretty sure you could sail ships down the Danube or Rhine that would be big by EU4-timeframe standards. The Rhine is a major shipping route to this day.

Live next to the Rhine, can confirm.