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Just a few suggestions that would fit nicely into the game mechanics.

1. Óenach Tailtenn - The fair of Tailtiú. You could make this the perogative of an Irish High-King. Basically the same as the regular Summer fair, though being a royal perogative would add greatly to a kings prestige. Can only be completed in August, however. Was performed by many aspiring High-Kings in the 11th and 12th century to confirm their position.

2. Feis Temrach - The Feast of Tara. Effectively an an assembly of all the magnates of Ireland, supposedly to confirm the laws and histories of Ireland, but effectively involved a week of heavy drinking. Though prohibition was placed on violence and theft and carrying weapons during this period. Carried out seemingly at halloween. Wasn't necessarily carried out by later Irish Kings, but would certainly have been conscious of them as perogatives of kingship, and similar assemblies were held:

Feis Teamhrach gach treas bliadhna
Do chomhall reachta is riaghla,
Do-níthí an tan soin go teann
Ag ríoghaibh ána Éireann.

Do rinne Cathaoir cleamhnach
Feis ró-chaomh na rígh-Theamhrach;
Tángadar leis, feirrde dhe,
Fir Éireann go haon bhaile.

Trí lá ré Samhain do ghrés,
Trí lá 'n-a diaidh fá deighbhés;
Don tsluagh ro ba díomhór doigh
Ag síoról ris an seachtmhoin.

Gan ghoid is gan ghoin duine
Aca an oiread soin uile;
Gan imirt airm gan áladh
Gan acradha d'iomrádhadh.

Cibé do-níodh ní dhíobh sin
Fá bíodhbha troch go dtromnimh:
Ní gabhtha ór arann uaidh
Acht a anam ré haonuair.

The Feis of Tara every third year,
For the fulfilment of laws and rules,
Was convened at that time mightily
By the noble kings of Erin.

Cathaoir of many alliances assembled
The beauteous Feis of Royal Tara;
There came to him, it was a pleasure,
The men of Ireland to one place.

Three days before Samhain, according to custom,
Three days thereafter, good the practice,
Did that high-spirited company
Pass in constant feasting, a week.

Robbery, personal wounding,
Were forbidden them all that time;
Assault at arms, cutting,
Proceedings by litigation:

Whoever did any of these thing
Was a wicked culprit of much venom
Redeeming gold would not be accepted from him,
But his life was at once forfeit.
 
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Meh, I hate to sound mean but the Irish weren't exactly all that important in the Crusades time period. Much of Ireland was invaded by England early in the time period and scarcely contributed much to English politics, Scotland however I could see happening. A Celtic flavoured pack would be far more likely so that all of the Celtic nations will gain flavour, rather than just a series of relatively insignificant states.
 

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I'd have to agree, unfortunately.. Ireland just wasn't that relevant in the time period to warrant its' own DLC or special patch love over a number of other realms. As a mod, though, it sounds like a good idea!
 

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Meh, I hate to sound mean but the Irish weren't exactly all that important in the Crusades time period. Much of Ireland was invaded by England early in the time period and scarcely contributed much to English politics, Scotland however I could see happening. A Celtic flavoured pack would be far more likely so that all of the Celtic nations will gain flavour, rather than just a series of relatively insignificant states.

Flavour is flavour. It's not about what the state did historically, it's about what you can do with a state potentially and how what you do with that state my be affected by its own idiosyncracies. To be honest, I think paradox would do well do add such flavour into as many different cultures as possible. As I've said, there's nothing drastic here.
 

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I'd have to agree, unfortunately.. Ireland just wasn't that relevant in the time period to warrant its' own DLC or special patch love over a number of other realms. As a mod, though, it sounds like a good idea!

I never argued for either, though. Just titbits Paradox could throw into Ireland should they wish.
 

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I'm currently in the progress of updating my modification once again, it's going quite slowly but anyways. Thus far I've given all the Irish 'Dukes' Duchy "Kingdoms", and made the de jure duchies only creatable by non-Irish. The de jure Kingdom is now the 'High Kingdom of Ireland'. That's about it, although I'm currently working on a Lordship of Ireland decision for the Kings of England when they get a foothold. I'm also brainstorming currently ways in which to get the Scottish independence wars to work properly with in-game mechanics, most likely through narrative events. There's more features in the list on my mod's actual page, it's in my signature so check it out if you wish.

To get to the point; I would like to add these features to the mod itself, I hope that's okay with you as I think it would add a nice bit of flavor to the Irish.
 

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I'm currently in the progress of updating my modification once again, it's going quite slowly but anyways. Thus far I've given all the Irish 'Dukes' Duchy "Kingdoms", and made the de jure duchies only creatable by non-Irish. The de jure Kingdom is now the 'High Kingdom of Ireland'. That's about it, although I'm currently working on a Lordship of Ireland decision for the Kings of England when they get a foothold. I'm also brainstorming currently ways in which to get the Scottish independence wars to work properly with in-game mechanics, most likely through narrative events. There's more features in the list on my mod's actual page, it's in my signature so check it out if you wish.

To get to the point; I would like to add these features to the mod itself, I hope that's okay with you as I think it would add a nice bit of flavor to the Irish.

Yep, I've no issue with that whatsoever.
 

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Ireland is probably where most people tend to start their first game at, so why not give it at least some love? I mean there aren't ANY events for them.

Any ideas for events then? I'm Scottish/Welsh so therefore I don't know a whole lot about Irish cultural customs and all that back in those days. If anyone does happen to get any ideas, tell me. :)
 

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Any ideas for events then? I'm Scottish/Welsh so therefore I don't know a whole lot about Irish cultural customs and all that back in those days. If anyone does happen to get any ideas, tell me. :)

Well, blinding would be quite important. In Ireland, like in the ERE, one had to be physically perfect to become king.
 

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Any ideas for events then? I'm Scottish/Welsh so therefore I don't know a whole lot about Irish cultural customs and all that back in those days. If anyone does happen to get any ideas, tell me. :)
I have no idea, hell i'm not even remotely close to Ireland :p (Eastern Roman Empire here)
But you could implement what the OP says right?
 

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It's true that Ireland didnt loom large in the Europe of Ck2, but since a disproportionate number of players play as an Irish house, an Emerald Isle DLC would probably be worth Paradox's time. It could finally allow that Irish elective style succession (Tanistry [sp?]) and some other of the things mentioned here. Add in some Irish tunes, and I'd certainly buy it.
 

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I like these ideas. I might even try putting them in my mod. ANyhow, I hope PI does a Celtic mini-DLC the size of Sunset Invasion (with historical plausibility this time :) ). It doesn't need to be anything honking big like LoR or SoI or the Republic, but a bit of love would be nice.
 

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Flavour is flavour. It's not about what the state did historically, it's about what you can do with a state potentially and how what you do with that state my be affected by its own idiosyncracies. To be honest, I think paradox would do well do add such flavour into as many different cultures as possible. As I've said, there's nothing drastic here.
I know that many people enjoy flavour for all nations especially their home nations, (myself included) I also know Ireland is a very popular starting spot for players. I'm not saying that it's a bad idea, just unlikely as DLC, you can try to mod it in if you so please.
 

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I know that many people enjoy flavour for all nations especially their home nations, (myself included) I also know Ireland is a very popular starting spot for players. I'm not saying that it's a bad idea, just unlikely as DLC, you can try to mod it in if you so please.

But I haven't asked for a dlc.