Some newbie questions (interface and hereditary system)

[Valynor]

I don't get why I keep reading on this forum that ck2 is one of the simplest paradox game. I played a lot of them (though not ck1) and I think the exact opposite, maybe only vic2 was so hard to start with.

Main difficulties for me is the interface and the hereditary system.
Where can you see the ereditary system of a foreign, let's say, political entity?
How can you keep trace of you family? After a couple of generation I can't say for sure which are the liens with my relatives. The tree view is just too limited. Is there an alternative?
What's the use of the ledger? In other paradox game using it is a must, but here I don't know what to do with it.

A last, practical question: what is a good start for experimenting whit hereeditary stuff without beeing overwhelmed llike it happened to me in Rostov (everybody there is your relative, but I did'nt really know any of them)

thanks for every answers

 

[Munglik]

I don't get why I keep reading on this forum that ck2 is one of the simplest paradox game. I played a lot of them (though not ck1) and I think the exact opposite, maybe only vic2 was so hard to start with.

Main difficulties for me is the interface and the hereditary system.
Where can you see the ereditary system of a foreign, let's say, political entity? Hover over the titles of that count/duke/king/emperor with your mouse.
How can you keep trace of you family? After a couple of generation I can't say for sure which are the liens with my relatives. The tree view is just too limited. Is there an alternative?
Isn't there a dynasty map next to the tree view?
What's the use of the ledger? In other paradox game using it is a must, but here I don't know what to do with it.


A last, practical question: what is a good start for experimenting whit hereeditary stuff without beeing overwhelmed llike it happened to me in Rostov (everybody there is your relative, but I did'nt really know any of them)

thanks for every answers

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[grumphie]

I don't get why I keep reading on this forum that ck2 is one of the simplest paradox game. I played a lot of them (though not ck1) and I think the exact opposite, maybe only vic2 was so hard to start with.

Main difficulties for me is the interface and the hereditary system.
Where can you see the ereditary system of a foreign, let's say, political entity?
How can you keep trace of you family? After a couple of generation I can't say for sure which are the liens with my relatives. The tree view is just too limited. Is there an alternative?
What's the use of the ledger? In other paradox game using it is a must, but here I don't know what to do with it.

A last, practical question: what is a good start for experimenting whit hereeditary stuff without beeing overwhelmed llike it happened to me in Rostov (everybody there is your relative, but I did'nt really know any of them)

thanks for every answers

ck2 really is quite simple once you get the hang of it. best place to start is always ireland: independent counts, relativly low amounts of foreign influence, and the growth allows you to gain a good understanding of the mechanics of vassels and all.

if you want to see the laws of inheritance of, lets say, france, you go to the king of france. he has a shield next to his head. hover over it, and ou see the laws and first 3 in line for the throne.

go to your own pge, and click on your dynasty shield. it pops up a nice view of you, your close relatives, and ancesotrs, and kinsman.

the ledger is mainly usefull for checking on ther religions, comparing realm sizes, cheking on the individual levies and their max strengths, but really isnt that important. the realm tree however IS a extremly usefull tool, as it puts any realm in a simple tree of vassels and vassels of vassels with their max and current strength relative to their top lieges max and current. i'd adive you to just play and try in ireland, and if you fail/come to a point where you doubt wha to do, just ask. its how i got to understand how the game works. within a week i got a quite good hang of the mechanics, and browsing the forums regulary helps to understand the more complicated things.

 

[Valynor]

I forgot to mention I played the Ireland game. Forget claims and united kingdom. Too easy though, I didn't really need to understand the game. And once outside my island, thing happen that I don't understand.

I missed the tool tip with the inheritance law and the three successors, thanks.
But really, a tool tip? When the entire page is full of not so useful information on vassals and hundreds of claimants
And where can I see the crown authority of my liege or neighbours?


Other random interface questions:
Which possible groom/bride I can see in the marriage page? Going in the general characters search I can find many more of them.
And why the green thumb on the courtiers willing to accept the invitation to the court appear only in the claimants' page?
And in the ledger, why is not possible to order alphabetically the independent nations?

Maybe being at home with a bad cold makes me irritable and of course I still don't understand the game but it looks like the interface, at least many parts of it, does not make any sense.

 

[A_Dane]

Once you click on the little golden rings, to get to the marriage overview, it more or less gives you the best candidates in the top, and the worst in the bottom.

 

[grumphie]

general rule: when in doubt, look for the tooltip. the game is FULL of informative tooltips.

the interface just requires a bit getting used to. i used to find it unhandy as heck, but its like a second nature for em already.