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1. A new character in 1.07, Goda of England (161262), is missing her second husband, Eustace II of Boulogne:

Code:
20142 = {
	name="Eustache"
	# AKA: Eustatius 'Gernobadatus'
	dynasty=308
	martial=7
	diplomacy=2
	intrigue=4
	stewardship=6
	religion="catholic"
	culture="frankish"
	add_trait="arbitrary"
	add_trait="tough_soldier"
	father=10065
	mother=10066
	1025.1.1 = {
		birth="1025.1.1"
	}
	[COLOR="#FF8C00"]1035.1.2 = {
		add_spouse=161262 # Dreux de Valois dies on 1035.1.1 (so there's no overlap)
	}[/COLOR]
	1054.1.1 = {
		add_spouse=10070
	}
	1087.1.1 = {
		death="1087.1.1"
	}
}

Goda is correctly married to Dreux de Valois (40416) until he dies. She then married Eustace until she died, and he then married for a second time (to Ida of Lorraine) in about 1049. I assume the date has been pushed back to 1054 for age reasons? Either way, I think this setup should be correct.

2. Charles the Simple (90111) ought to be married to Eadgifu of Wessex (90124) as she was his queen and the mother of their son, Louis d'Outremer. Even though they're both long dead, it is accurate and it also means Eadgifu will get a crown and correctly be considered a queen.

Code:
90111 = {
	name="Charles"
	# AKA: Charles 'le Simple'
	dynasty=25061
	martial=6
	diplomacy=5
	intrigue=7
	stewardship=5
	religion="catholic"
	culture="frankish"
	add_trait="slothful"
	father=90123
	879.1.18 = {
		birth="879.1.18"
	}
	[COLOR="#FF8C00"]919.10.7 = {
		add_spouse=90124
	}[/COLOR]
	929.1.8 = {
		death="929.1.8"
	}
}

Charles did actually have a first wife named Frédérune, but I can't imagine she's in the game.

EDIT: Please read this before you add point 3 below!!!

3. Speaking of Saxon queens, I think it's probably worth adding Eadgyth of Wessex, Otto the Great's empress and mother of two characters in the game, Luitgarde (1284) and Liudolf (7964).

Code:
40421 = {
	name="Eadgyth" 
	female=yes
	dynasty=100072
	religion="catholic"
	culture="saxon"
	father=100
	910.1.1={
		birth="910.1.1"
	}
	946.1.26={
		death="946.1.26"
	}
}

40421 is the first free Saxon ID.

And for german.txt:

Code:
1282 = {
	name="Otto"
	# AKA: Otto 'der Grosse'
	dynasty=669
	martial=7
	diplomacy=7
	intrigue=8
	stewardship=6
	religion="catholic"
	culture="german"
	add_trait="greedy"
	add_trait="diligent"
	add_trait="envious"
	add_trait="skilled_tactician"
	father=1280
	mother=1281
	912.1.2 = {
		birth="912.1.2"
	}
	[COLOR="#FF8C00"]929.1.1 = {
		add_spouse=40421
	}[/COLOR]
	955.1.1 = {
		add_spouse=1159
	}
	973.1.1 = {
		give_nickname=nick_the_great
	}
	973.1.2 = {
		death="973.1.2"
	}
}

Code:
1284 = {
	name="Luitgarde"
	female=yes 
	dynasty=669
	martial=5
	diplomacy=4
	intrigue=8
	stewardship=7
	religion="catholic"
	culture="german"
	add_trait="honest"
	add_trait="proud"
	add_trait="brave"
	add_trait="amateurish_plotter"
	father=1282
	[COLOR="#FF8C00"]mother=40421[/COLOR]
	940.1.2 = {
		birth="940.1.2"
	}
	983.1.2 = {
		death="983.1.2"
	}
}

Code:
7964 = {
	name="Liudolf"
	dynasty=669
	martial=5
	diplomacy=4
	intrigue=8
	stewardship=7
	religion="catholic"
	culture="german"
	add_trait="honest"
	add_trait="proud"
	add_trait="brave"
	add_trait="amateurish_plotter"
	father=1282
	[COLOR="#FF8C00"]mother=40421[/COLOR]
	930.1.1 = {
		birth="930.1.1"
	}
	948.1.1 = {
		add_spouse=7963
	}
	957.9.6 = {
		death="957.9.6"
	}
}

These two have the wrong mother, so this is actually a bug. Certainly doesn't hurt to add her anyway, as she was an empress.

Incidentally, I can find no mention of this character, Otto's daughter:

Code:
11063 = {
	name="Richilde"
	female=yes
	dynasty=669
	martial=4
	diplomacy=6
	intrigue=7
	stewardship=4
	religion="catholic"
	culture="german"
	father=1282
	945.1.1 = {
		birth="945.1.1"
	}
	986.1.1 = {
		death="986.1.1"
	}
}

Is this supposed to be someone else? You could replace her with Matilda.

There are still a couple of Alan characters in georgian.txt by the way. It's not a problem, but you should move them to alan.txt :)
 
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Richilde/Richlind might be a daughter of Liudolf, and thus a grand-daughter of Otto the Great, according to this German Wikipedia article. If that page is right we have:
Code:
11063 = {
	name="Richilde"
	female=yes
	dynasty=669
	martial=4
	diplomacy=6
	intrigue=7
	stewardship=4
	religion="catholic"
	culture="german"
[COLOR="#FFA500"]	father=7964
	mother=7963
	948.1.1 = {
		birth="948.1.1"
	}
	1007.1.1 = {
		death="1007.1.1"
	}[/COLOR]
}
In addition, the birthdates of her son Hermann (character ID 1384) and daughter Judith (character ID 40191) have to be adjusted upwards, and Judith should maybe renamed to "Kunigunde".

I wouldn't replace Richilde though, ideally Mathilde should get a new character ID. And while we are at it, Liudolf, like his father, also had a daughter named Mathilde who is currently missing.
 
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That's fine with me, but it's up to Paradox. I'm not an expert on the Ottonians, but Otto's Wikipedia page does not mention him having a daughter named Richilde, even a bastard, whereas it does mention a bastard named Wilhelm, who is already in the game. So, I think we can rule him out as being Richilde's father.

Making her Liudolf's daughter is fine with me, and you do have a source that suggests she may have been. I also agree that adding Matilda wouldn't be a bad idea.
 

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While implementing Sleight of Hand's suggestions for my personal use, I stumbled on to some more omissions:

Adelaide of Italy, the second wife of Otto the Great and mother of Otto II, was actually of the Welf dynasty and the daughter of Rudolph II of Burgundy. During her time she also served as regent of the Holy Roman Empire and later became a catholic saint. In game, she is currently some random nobody sadly. Her fixed lineage and traits:
Code:
1159 = {
	name="Adelaide"
	female=yes
[COLOR="#FFA500"]	dynasty=650
[/COLOR]	martial=4
	diplomacy=7
	intrigue=6
	stewardship=8
	religion="catholic"
	culture="german"
[COLOR="#FFA500"]	add_trait="charitable"
	add_trait="diligent"
	add_trait="zealous"
	add_trait="fortune_builder"
	father=1144
	mother=7958[/COLOR]
	930.1.2 = {
		birth="930.1.2"
	}
	980.1.2 = {
		death="980.1.2"
	}
}

Before marrying Otto the Great, Adelaide was married to Lothair II of Italy, the son of Hugh of Italy. Lothair is currently not in the game. He might look like this:
Code:
[COLOR="#FFA500"]abc = {
	name="Lothair"
	dynasty=7052
	religion="catholic"
	culture="frankish"
	father=7923
	926.1.1 = {
		birth="926.1.1"
	}
	945.12.12 = {
		add_spouse=1159
	}
	950.11.22 = {
		death="950.11.22"
	}
}[/COLOR]

Both Hugh and Lothair should also be listed in k_italy.txt, as they held the title for a short time each.

Code:
100.1.1=
{
	pentarch = b_roma
}

774.1.1={
	holder=6392 #Charlemagne
}
781.1.1={
	holder=6394 #Pepin 'Carloman'
}
810.7.8={
	holder=6396 #Bernard
}
818.8.17={
	holder=90095 #Louis I
}
840.6.20={
	holder=30227 #Lothaire
}
855.9.20={
	holder=30228 #Louis II
}
875.8.12={
	holder=90104 #Charles 'the Bald'
}
877.10.6={
	holder=42018 #Karlmann
}
880.9.29={
	holder=90105 #Charles 'the Fat'
}
888.1.13={
	holder=71901 #Berengar I
}
889.1.1={
	holder=71903 #Guy of Spoleto
}
894.12.12={
	holder=71904 #Lambert of Spoleto
}
898.10.15={
	holder=71901 #Berengar I
}
900.1.1={
	holder=1164 #Louis III of Provence
}
902.1.1={
	holder=71901 #Berengar I
}
902.6.1={
	holder=1164 #Louis III of Provence
}
905.6.1={
	holder=71901 #Berengar I
}
922.1.1={
	holder=1144 #Rudolf II of Burgundy
}
[COLOR="#FFA500"]926.1.1={
	holder=7923 #Hugh of Arles
}
948.4.10={
	holder=abc #Lothair II
}[/COLOR]
950.11.22={
	holder=1108 #Berengario of Ivrea
}
961.1.1={
	holder=1110 #Adalberto of Ivrea
}
962.1.1={
	holder=1282 # Otto I of HRE
}
973.5.7={
	holder = 1286 #Otto II
}
1002.1.24={
	holder=71902 #Arduino of Ivrea
}
1014.1.1={
	holder = 1296 #Heinrich II 
}
1024.7.13={
	holder = 0 #Subsumed into HRE
}
#1024.7.13={
#	holder = 1312 #Konrad II
#	liege="e_hre"
#	law = succ_feudal_elective
#	law = agnatic_succession
#	law = investiture_law_1
#}
#1039.6.4={
#	holder = 1314 #Heinrich III 
#}
#1056.5.10 = {	
#	holder = 1316 #Heinrich IV 
#}
#1106.7.8 = { 
#	holder = 7901 #Heinrich V 
#}
#
#1125.8.24 = { 
#	holder = 30219 #Lothar III von Supplingburg
#}
#1152.2.15 = {
#	holder = 212501 #Friedrich I von Hohenstaufen
#}
#1190.6.10 = {
#	holder = 212507 #Heinrich VI von Hohenstaufen
#}
#1197.9.28 = {
#	holder = 212506 #Philip I von Hohenstaufen
#}
#1208.8.21= {
#	holder = 212607 #Otto IV Welf
#}
#1212.12.5 = {
#	holder = 212513 #Friedrich II von Hohenstaufen
#}
#1250.12.13={
#	holder = 30760 #Konrad IV von Hohenstaufen
#}
#1254.5.21={
#	holder = 94003 #Willem Gerulfing (van Holland)
#}
#1256.1.28={
#	holder = 232682 #Richard of Cornwall (Plantagenet)
#}
#1272.4.2={
#	holder = 462021 #Rudolf I von Habsburg
#}
#1291.7.15={
#	holder = 462360 #Adolf von Nassau
#}
#1298.6.23={
#	holder = 462023 #Albrecht I von Habsburg
#}
#1308.5.1 = {
#	holder = 462611 #Heinrich VII von Luxemburg
#}
#1313.8.24 = {
#	holder = 462740 #Ludwig III von Wittelsbach
#}

Do note that 950.11.22={ holder=1108 #Berengario of Ivrea }, which is already present in the vanilla game, is a perfect fit for Lothair's date of death as per Wikipedia.
Furthermore Lothair and Adelaide also had one daughter, Emma of Italy, who later married Lothair of France and was the mother of Louis V of France, the last king of the Carolingian dynasty. In this example I gave her the traits to account for her supposed infidelity:
Code:
[COLOR="#FFA500"]xyz = {
	name="Emma"
	female=yes
	dynasty=7052
	religion="catholic"
	culture="frankish"
	add_trait="deceitful"
	add_trait="lustful"
	add_trait="flamboyant_schemer"
	father=abc
	mother=1159
	948.1.1 = {
		birth="948.1.1"
	}
	986.1.1 = {
		death="986.1.1"
	}
}[/COLOR]

Her husband Lothair and her son Louis:
Code:
90125 = {
	name="Lothair"
	dynasty=25061
	martial=5
	diplomacy=5
	intrigue=6
	stewardship=5
	religion="catholic"
	culture="frankish"
	father=90120
	mother=1289
	941.1.2 = {
		birth="941.1.2"
	}
[COLOR="#FFA500"]	965.1.1 = {
		add_spouse=xyz #Emma of Italy
	}[/COLOR]
	986.1.2 = {
		death="986.1.2"
	}
}

90126 = {
	name="Louis"
	# AKA: Louis 'le Faineant'
	dynasty=25061
	martial=5
	diplomacy=5
	intrigue=4
	stewardship=5
	religion="catholic"
	culture="frankish"
	father=90125
[COLOR="#FFA500"]	mother=xyz
[/COLOR]	967.1.2 = {
		birth="967.1.2"
	}
	986.1.22 = {
		death="986.1.22"
	}
}

To bring this long post to a fitting end, Lothair of France is actually the grandson of Eadgifu of Wessex, who Sleight of Hand already mentioned in his first post! I had no idea I would end up here when I started at Adelaide... This is the circle of life of CK2 history bug-hunting! :laugh:
 

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An awesome set of fixes, well done. :)

Keep your eyes peeled, though, as there are surely other bugs to be found!

By the way, Carloman I is still missing as a king of France...
 

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Carloman I of France is in the game, just not properly referenced.
k_france.txt:
Code:
100.1.1={
	pentarch = b_roma
}

#Carolingians
751.11.1 = {
	holder = 131722 #Pépin le Bref
	law = centralization_0
}
[COLOR="#0000FF"]768.9.24={
	holder = 144999 #Carloman I
}[/COLOR]
771.12.4={
	holder = 6392 #Charlemagne
}
etc.
 

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Good shout. Let's have him added. :)

EDIT: If this gets added, make sure to use the correct French spelling of Lothair, which is Lothaire -- with an e.
 
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Ahh, it seems I've made a small mistake. :eek:o

The character I mentioned in point 3 is in fact in the game already (ID 101, Edithia), so instead of adding the new character I posted (ID 40421, Eadgyth) just change the relevant characters (Otto and those two children) to use the existing ID.

Sorry about that, folks.
 

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Has been reported
Thanks a lot. I've edited the first post so that new character isn't added by mistake.

Also (and this is probably my fault) there's a character in breton.txt named Edouarzh (Edward) (ID 346) -- he ought to be named Eozen (Eudes).

There's another by that name (ID 91214) whose real name was Ehuarn, so you could change it to that.