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Gee willigers, is this gonna be swell.

Finally another map without the New World.
 

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Just want to say I actually like the look of the map, coasts and mountains looks nice. It's a great improvement over EU3 in my opinion.
 

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Cool! Graphics look good, better then EU3 IMO.

I like the idea of CK like characters too, traits etc..

Regarding the calender system, will February even exist? I cant remember if EU3 had the same "issue" around February as the older Pdox games did? Well you know what Im getting at..... ;)
 

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Finally a game where Scotland (and Sweden :rofl: ) will be PTI!

I wonder if Persia will be too powerfull, or if they are going to nerf them by not representing most of their empire on the map (north-india).
 

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Piggy said:
Cool! Graphics look good, better then EU3 IMO.

I like the idea of CK like characters too, traits etc..

Regarding the calender system, will February even exist? I cant remember if EU3 had the same "issue" around February as the older Pdox games did? Well you know what Im getting at..... ;)
Well, in the early Roman Calendar, the year started with March, and a year was 10 months, but that would be quite unpractical to use in the game...

I hope the months will be named Ianuarius, Februarius, Martius, Aprilis, Maius, Iunius, Quintilis, Sextilis, September, October, November, December, as was their names in this period. :)
 
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wow, i just realized how little i know about the roman era. i think i'll stick with central and northern europe in EUIII. i do hope it is a full map of europe though, with all the northern tribes playable as tribal chiefdoms or mud hut confederations.
 

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Carewolf2 said:
Finally a game where Scotland (and Sweden :rofl: ) will be PTI!

I wonder if Persia will be too powerfull, or if they are going to nerf them by not representing most of their empire on the map (north-india).

from my understanding, the heartland of the Persian empires when they were strongest tended to be in Mesopotamia and what is now Western Iran, where large population densities based on irrigation agriculture were possible, not on the tablelands of Eastern Iran or Afghanistan with its limited agricultural potential. Thus the map, which extends completely around the Caspian, includes the vast bulk of the most productive parts of Parthian territory. Not including the eastern edges of the Parthian empire in Bactria and the Indus Valley really is not going to nerf a Persian state, since its most productive resource base was in the Western half of the empire. The east was important for linking Parthia to the evolving trade routes in Central Asia and down into the Indian subcontinent and being able to take a cut of that trade, but in terms of resources would have been less important.
 

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Did i see the year 474 there? The romans use scutums there, which weren't anymore used. They used round shields for the legionaries and lorica hamatas.
 

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I am really glad to see that EU3 series is such a success. It will be very interesting to see how this project works out.

I am so happy at seeing all the positive posts in this forum.

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OHgamer said:
from my understanding, the heartland of the Persian empires when they were strongest tended to be in Mesopotamia and what is now Western Iran, where large population densities based on irrigation agriculture were possible, not on the tablelands of Eastern Iran or Afghanistan with its limited agricultural potential. Thus the map, which extends completely around the Caspian, includes the vast bulk of the most productive parts of Parthian territory. Not including the eastern edges of the Parthian empire in Bactria and the Indus Valley really is not going to nerf a Persian state, since its most productive resource base was in the Western half of the empire. The east was important for linking Parthia to the evolving trade routes in Central Asia and down into the Indian subcontinent and being able to take a cut of that trade, but in terms of resources would have been less important.

I didn't know the game would extend all the way around the Caspian Sea, sounds acceptable. We can always argue whether or not not including India is a disadvantage in potential or and advantage by having a safe back.

Reminds me; I better go look up what all the post-Alexandrian states were called, so I can pick which I am going to play first. Calling a game Rome, invites invasion :D
 

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Carewolf2 said:
I didn't know the game would extend all the way around the Caspian Sea, sounds acceptable. We can always argue whether or not not including India is a disadvantage in potential or and advantage by having a safe back.

I'm just guessing based on the small map image in the bottom of the alpha screens. that shows the entire caspian and pretty much ends flush with the modern Iran-Afghan-Pakistan border.

It's an alpha pic so who knows what the final view will be, but in general so long as you've got Mesopotamia and the western parts of what are now Iran, you've got the basis for a viable Persian state.
 

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I also hereby volunteer as a Beta.

Given my crappy 0.95 GHz computer, I can test it for performance on low-end machines.
 

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Gen.Schuermann said:
wow, what a letdown. I am not likely to play this. The provinces are too big to be a european-only game, i hate the terrainmap (why not post political map? no one plays in terrain map view, right?), i hate one province nations.

Urgh. Well, as long as Ur-Germans are in it, i might play it.

Remember 2000 years ago there were a few billion less people. Hard to have a lot of provinces where there may not even be a developed city there.
 

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Searry said:
Did i see the year 474 there? The romans use scutums there, which weren't anymore used. They used round shields for the legionaries and lorica hamatas.
It's 474 AUC. Oval scuta (which is what they seem to be using) were quite the rage, AFAIK.
 

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marshman said:
Remember 2000 years ago there were a few billion less people. Hard to have a lot of provinces where there may not even be a developed city there.

True enough, but there is always colonizing. The romans build quite a few cities up here. Mainz, Cologne to name a few. Even Paris and London, which is quite a feat.

Regarding the population, that is really intrigueing. Back then there were only around 100 million people, yes? Some historian correct me if i am wrong. The whole world must have been quite empty.
 

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still looking horrible as ever. why not stick with the grafics engine of EU2/Vik/Hoi2 and improve that?
How can you say that? This looks better than the Total War map for me, even.
 

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How can you say that? This looks better than the Total War map for me, even.

Ditto, I'm completely in love with it, like I said, I'll engage in all sorts of things just to be put on the beta