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I formed Qing in my latest campaign right when I hit the basic requirements. As a result, I was unable to conquer all the claims I got (all of China proper) in enough time before they disappeared.

Do you think if you form a country, you should get claims for a longer period of time? I think I had, what, 25 years to do it in? Wasn't enough time.

I know now that I should have held off a little bit on formin Qing, waited until I had like a third of China at least. But it still sucks and doesn't make a whole lotta sense. I never really paid attention to how long a claim lasts (don't some last longer than others?), and I didn't expect to have to race the clock to take out Ming and co. Instead, I had to go through the long slog of fabrication.

Yes, I know there's the Unify China cassus belli ... but without the core creation reduction that claims provide (they provide a reduction, right?) and with the explosion of coring costs in 1.13, it takes a while to conquer China.
 
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Yes, they should last longer than 25 years, I say that they should last 100 years and give -25% coring cost.
 
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Claims from nation forming are permanent in 1.14, only disappear if revoked through war. They also give -25% core cost.
 
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I foresee a lot of Jurchen horde --->Qing campaigns in 1.14.

Pity I started my Jurchen horde AAR in 1.13 :(
 
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Thats not only an excellent change for the player but I hope also an incentive for the AI to conquer historical territory. Very good.
 
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Claims from nation forming are permanent in 1.14, only disappear if revoked through war. They also give -25% core cost.

how are different sort of claims differentiated?
 
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Claims from nation forming are permanent in 1.14, only disappear if revoked through war. They also give -25% core cost.
Awesome Patch Note: +100 relations (-0.2 Daily)

I hereby dub this patch the "Make The Fanbase Happy" patch.
 
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1.14 sounds really great so far. Do you guys plan to open it up for beta like 1.13?

No, 1.14 will come along with an unannounced expansion.
 
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And that unannounced expansion will remain unannounced until release, or will you give some info about that later? :)

It will remain unannounced until announcement. Can't give you any more details than that.
 
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