As I understand those Poles are causing us trouble in Prussia, Austria and Russia, may I propose resettlement to Madagascar? 
Solving the Polish Problem?
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You post on a good number of topics with immature and needlessly offensive comments and then this, the belive the line from the chorus, nazi punks fuck off would be apropraite for this situation. If you dont actually posses a brain keeping your mouth shut is the right thing to do.
Yes, Hearts of Irons if the one about the time the holocaust was going on, if thats your fantasy go bother them.
That didn't really strike me as offensive to be totally honest..immature, maybe. But I think you may be overreacting.
Is this something about controllable migration? If so, very poorly put across.As I understand those Poles are causing us trouble in Prussia, Austria and Russia, may I propose resettlement to Madagascar?
This is a weird post indeed... but I don't think it's quite what it seems .
I have no idea what the original poster's intentions were. It's such a short post, that it doesn't explain anything - as such, it's hard to consider it anything more than spam.
But... it is a fact that, faced with the seemingly insurmountable might of the three occupying powers, some Poles in the 19th century seriously proposed re-establishing an independent Poland overseas - yes, in Madagascar. As near as I can figure out, this got started out by the adventures of Count Maurice Benyovski - a Hungarian Slovak (or a Slovak Hungarian - eh, whatever ), who fought to preserve Poland's independence in the 1760s, got sent off by the Russians to Siberia, escaped, and eventually went on to work with the French in establishing colonies in Madagascar. At some point, he split off from the French and tried to establish an independent state of his own - he was killed during a French reprisal attack, after he'd raided one of their colonies. In the meantime, he'd also managed to visit France and America a few times, fighting in the American war of independence, as well as returning to Hungary for a while... a man of the world, to say the least.
Anyway, all of the above isn't at all relevant - just fun trivia about an extremely, remarkably colourful figure. He was a textbook "adventurer" - it's well near impossible to even figure out what his motivations might have been. If he considered any country to be his homeland, I guess that was probably Hungary - but he has a Polish-sounding name, he fought for Poland, and was immortalised by a Polish epic poem in the 19th century, so the Polish ended up appropriating him as our national hero, and some wanted to continue what they thought he had been trying to do (which, mind you, he wasn't - when he died, Poland still existed, though was no longer completely sovereign).
None of this helps us figure out what the heck the original poster was trying to get across, and none of this could have any relevance to the development of Victoria II - but I figured it's worth explaining at least that he probably wasn't trying to suggest any kind of ethnic cleansing or any such thing.
.I have no idea what the original poster's intentions were. It's such a short post, that it doesn't explain anything - as such, it's hard to consider it anything more than spam.
But... it is a fact that, faced with the seemingly insurmountable might of the three occupying powers, some Poles in the 19th century seriously proposed re-establishing an independent Poland overseas - yes, in Madagascar. As near as I can figure out, this got started out by the adventures of Count Maurice Benyovski - a Hungarian Slovak (or a Slovak Hungarian - eh, whatever
), who fought to preserve Poland's independence in the 1760s, got sent off by the Russians to Siberia, escaped, and eventually went on to work with the French in establishing colonies in Madagascar. At some point, he split off from the French and tried to establish an independent state of his own - he was killed during a French reprisal attack, after he'd raided one of their colonies. In the meantime, he'd also managed to visit France and America a few times, fighting in the American war of independence, as well as returning to Hungary for a while... a man of the world, to say the least.Anyway, all of the above isn't at all relevant - just fun trivia about an extremely, remarkably colourful figure. He was a textbook "adventurer" - it's well near impossible to even figure out what his motivations might have been. If he considered any country to be his homeland, I guess that was probably Hungary - but he has a Polish-sounding name, he fought for Poland, and was immortalised by a Polish epic poem in the 19th century, so the Polish ended up appropriating him as our national hero, and some wanted to continue what they thought he had been trying to do (which, mind you, he wasn't - when he died, Poland still existed, though was no longer completely sovereign).
None of this helps us figure out what the heck the original poster was trying to get across, and none of this could have any relevance to the development of Victoria II - but I figured it's worth explaining at least that he probably wasn't trying to suggest any kind of ethnic cleansing or any such thing.
The OP was clearly a joke but it does deal with an interesting issue which 19th century governments actually grappled with. Namely how to assimilate ethnic minorities or encourage them to immigrate. Viki 1 did a pretty good job of breaking this down using militancy and consciousness which allowed historic nationalist movements to be represented in the game though I would like to see at least one path where multiethnic empires could successfully convert minority pops into the national culture. Especially since empires like Austria-Hungary, Russia, and the Ottomans tried very hard to do this in real life.
My guess would be it would work much like in Viki 1 where highly militant pops are more likely to immigrate or move to colonies but this means there should also be national decisions which upset ethnic minorities thus making them more militant and thus more likely to rebel or immigrate to escape repression like forced assimilation.
My guess would be it would work much like in Viki 1 where highly militant pops are more likely to immigrate or move to colonies but this means there should also be national decisions which upset ethnic minorities thus making them more militant and thus more likely to rebel or immigrate to escape repression like forced assimilation.
But... it is a fact that, faced with the seemingly insurmountable might of the three occupying powers, some Poles in the 19th century seriously proposed re-establishing an independent Poland overseas - yes, in Madagascar. As near as I can figure out, this got started out by the adventures of Count Maurice Benyovski - a Hungarian Slovak (or a Slovak Hungarian - eh, whatever
Anyway, all of the above isn't at all relevant - just fun trivia about an extremely, remarkably colourful figure. He was a textbook "adventurer" - it's well near impossible to even figure out what his motivations might have been. If he considered any country to be his homeland, I guess that was probably Hungary - but he has a Polish-sounding name, he fought for Poland, and was immortalised by a Polish epic poem in the 19th century, so the Polish ended up appropriating him as our national hero, and some wanted to continue what they thought he had been trying to do (which, mind you, he wasn't - when he died, Poland still existed, though was no longer completely sovereign).
Amazing thanks for the research, Quarto. I just love the stories told on this forum. Its like jewish Ouganda: totally weired !
That will be enough of calling posters stupid (or worse). Keep the discussion civil folks, and keep the use of vulgarity out of your posting (as required in the general forum rules).
As I understand those Poles are causing us trouble in Prussia, Austria and Russia, may I propose resettlement to Madagascar?
You should resettle yourself if you don't know history
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