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Damn, this thread is hot!
 

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Honestly? I would have rather waited another year for CK2 to come out so I didn't have to buy the rest of the game Piecemeal for ten dollars each. Soon enough we're going to have Pagan, Byzantine, Republic, and Theocracy $10 "expansion packs", and I don't like it one bit, no sir I do not.

You're overreacting here. Take a deep breath, CALM DOWN. How do you know Byzantines would be unplayable? Muslims and Pagans were supposed unplayable at the start of the game release. And nobody thinks you're a troll, maybe you think everyone else thinks you are a troll.
 

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Paradrone in this thread has continuously used the word "troll"
Using epithets like Paradrone = acting like a troll = intentionally picking a fight.

People have tried to tell you that you can STILL mod the game and play as a muslim. Do you understand this fact?
If no - what part of the above statement do you not understand?
If yes - argument over.
 

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Yeah, imagine if it had as many expansions as EU3. It would be horrible I tell you.

Except the expansions for EUIII added lots of new content to the game. Paradox didn't remove Japan and Ming from day 1 and already have in mind a DLC to unlock them.
 

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Every Paradrone in this thread has continuously used the word "troll" against all those who oppose the almighty DLCdox and her actions.

Anything anyone says that is a criticism of Paradox is "fictitious" and "incorrect".

Not everything you say is incorrect, just most of it. And when you refuse to accept corrections from others and continue in your inane rants, I can't help but assume you're trolling, or at least have a hard time grasping simple logic.
 

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Yes, I agree Muslims should have been playable at the start of the game. However, that was not your original point. Your original point was that 1.06 took away the ability to play Muslims, even though it's actually unchanged from 1.05 without the DLC.

It IS changed! It may have been a big that it was possible in 1.05, but it WAS possible.
 

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Using epithets like Paradrone = acting like a troll = intentionally picking a fight.

People have tried to tell you that you can STILL mod the game and play as a muslim. Do you understand this fact?
If no - what part of the above statement do you not understand?
If yes - argument over.

Except the "argument" isn't over, because I never said that you couldn't mod the game to play as a muslim. Do you understand that? My point was that I shouldn't have to edit game files to do something that should have been in the game at release. Paradox is turning into EA, they lock content from the beginning and plan on releasing a DLC.
 

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Since people don't seem to comprehend any of what is being said.

First, Muslims were NEVER playable without modding.
Second, Muslims are STILL playable through modding.

Get that? You lost nothing and your pissing and moaning about nothing.
 

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Using epithets like Paradrone = acting like a troll = intentionally picking a fight.

People have tried to tell you that you can STILL mod the game and play as a muslim. Do you understand this fact?
If no - what part of the above statement do you not understand?
If yes - argument over.
The point is it shouldn't have to be modded in

Except the expansions for EUIII added lots of new content to the game. Paradox didn't remove Japan and Ming from day 1 and already have in mind a DLC to unlock them.

and this too
 

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Actually CK2 was a remarkably stable release compared to others, but I agree with most of your other points. Though you could state yourself more tactfully. Resorting to insults only ruins your own arguments.

I fail to see why I should consider the opinions of anybody who disregards a single part of my argument because another part of my argument was poorly done.

You're overreacting here. Take a deep breath, CALM DOWN. How do you know Byzantines would be unplayable? Muslims and Pagans were supposed unplayable at the start of the game release. And nobody thinks you're a troll, maybe you think everyone else thinks you are a troll.

yak thinks I'm a troll. I'm sure a few others do, too.

And I'm not saying that Byzantines will be unplayable. What I'm saying is that Paradox is going to release, piece by piece, for $10 each, new "expansions" that only add a few minor things that should have been in the original, base game.
 

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Yeah, imagine if it had as many expansions as EU3 and as many cosmetic DLC's as HOI2. It would be horrible I tell you.
Indeed. What a shame that they focus on improving things one at a time then release them for us to play and have fun with! It's almost as if they want a better business model than what we had ten years ago!
 

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Except the expansions for EUIII added lots of new content to the game. Paradox didn't remove Japan and Ming from day 1 and already have in mind a DLC to unlock them.
EUIII - playing Japan and Ming was a feature from the beginning
CK2 - playing a EUROPEAN nation was a feature from the beginning - nowhere was it implied that you could play as a muslim ruler. If you didn't like that fact, why did you buy the game?
 

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Since people don't seem to comprehend any of what is being said.

First, Muslims were NEVER playable without modding.
Second, Muslims are STILL playable through modding.

Get that? You lost nothing and your pissing and moaning about nothing.

We know that. We are saying it is wrong or bad as a game release structure. You are the one who does not understand where we are coming from.
 

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Not everything you say is incorrect, just most of it. And when you refuse to accept corrections from others and continue in your inane rants, I can't help but assume you're trolling, or at least have a hard time grasping simple logic.

You keep saying what I'm saying is "incorrect" and "trolling", yet where is your proof? You can make as many baseless accusations as you want, but unless you actually bring up a counter point there is no reason to even respond to you anymore.
 

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Sorry but I disagree with the fundamental idea that the developer should block the consumer from using part of their product until the developer is finished working on it. If that is their idea then they shouldn't have released it in the first place. If they are going to release the game, then I want access to all the content, no matter how bad. Half-releasing a game shouldn't happen.

Are you complaining that you can't play as minor nations in the Total War series? How about playing in Gilneas in World of Warcraft before the Cataclysm expansion? Or playing as a common goblin in Magicka campaign? By your logic everything in the game should be playable no matter how content empty it is. And using EU3 as a precedent is completely meaningless. It is a different franchise with a different focus and mission statement. The fact that both EU3 and CK2 were made by Paradox is irrelevant. There is no clause or law anywhere that says that in Paradox games all nations have to be playable. Or would you expect to play as tertiary characters in a hypothetical Paradox point-and-click adventure game, regardless of it being a toted feature or not?
 

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Except the "argument" isn't over, because I never said that you couldn't mod the game to play as a muslim. Do you understand that? My point was that I shouldn't have to edit game files to do something that should have been in the game at release. Paradox is turning into EA, they lock content from the beginning and plan on releasing a DLC.
That is their RIGHT as a company. I may not like it either, but that's how businesses run! Don't buy PDox games if you don't like their business model.
 

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EUIII - playing Japan and Ming was a feature from the beginning
CK2 - playing a EUROPEAN nation was a feature from the beginning - nowhere was it implied that you could play as a muslim ruler. If you didn't like that fact, why did you buy the game?

Please actually read and comprehend my post in response to yours. Learning a skill like that will help the next time you attempt to argue with someone.
 
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