So when do the league wars end...

[StatikShocker]

League Wars can also end if the opposition league - be it Catholic or Protestant - fails to declare war for too long.

Gee thanks Wiz :wacko:

What I mean is, "too long" is really vague. In my game I as emperor Prussia have led the protestant league to crush the catholics. In fact, there are only two catholic nations left in the HRE, Bremen and Austria. Outside of them, only Poland, Castile and Granada remain catholic. Yet the religious wars just WON'T END! I have 80 Imperial Authority and it is just piling up because I apparently can't pass reforms until this is over. Its been nearly 50 years since any conflict. How much longer must we wait?!?

 

[Krilnik]

Weird, didn't happen to me. I guess it took like 10-15 years for me to get the Treaty event fired after the first war, because Catholics failed to attack again.

 

[StatikShocker]

maybe they'll end when we remove all catholic nations... although there are some protestants on their side

 

[ThuderLizard2]

It's 1646 in my Austria game and still no end to the league war which means no reforms. Anyway to get rid of this?

 

[WhiteHojo]

my leagues ended in 1607 I believe. playing as austria. no war was ever actually declared. just got the final event that disabled the leagues. sadly I cant say when the leagues started.
[edit for a bit more clarity]

 

[Nassau]

Somehow a war started without me getting involved and later I couldn't enter. Probably because I decided to leave the HRE

 

[Nobak]

In my game the protestants won the first war. The catholics won the second. The protestants won the third. Then the closing event fired during that third war's truce so the catholics didn't exactly "wait too long".
So at this point the whole thing is really unclear.

 

[ThuderLizard2]

In my game there has been no wars and now it's like a hundred years and still have the league. Really screwing up a otherwise good game.

 

[BoleslavLev]

Gee thanks Wiz :wacko:

What I mean is, "too long" is really vague. In my game I as emperor Prussia have led the protestant league to crush the catholics. In fact, there are only two catholic nations left in the HRE, Bremen and Austria. Outside of them, only Poland, Castile and Granada remain catholic. Yet the religious wars just WON'T END! I have 80 Imperial Authority and it is just piling up because I apparently can't pass reforms until this is over. Its been nearly 50 years since any conflict. How much longer must we wait?!?

Well, if you only won once, then the wars aren´t over yet - catholics just went from government into opposition They should be under time pressure though and I agree it is silly not to know how much time do you have. Some note in the HRE screen would be nice.

 

[ThuderLizard2]

At this point I think it's a bug. 1656 and still have the league. I'll try force converting the leader and see if that helps.

 

[guzjohnson]

Found this in the files:

The end league war event will fire when there are no protestant/catholic countries, no electors, no league enemies or no one that has a truce with the emperor and at least 30 years have passed since religious leagues started. Also the emperor must not be at war and must not have a regency.

 

[ThuderLizard2]

The end league war event will fire when there are no protestant/catholic countries, no electors, no league enemies or no one that has a truce with the emperor and at least 30 years have passed since religious leagues started. Also the emperor must not be at war and must not have a regency.

I don't get this condition. What does "no one that has a truce with the emperor" mean - does that mean any country in the game so I'd have to sit idle for 10 years or so to get all truces expired?

 

[thErgonomic]

Somehow a war started without me getting involved and later I couldn't enter. Probably because I decided to leave the HRE

Well you could have joined a league, anybody can even Ottos, but at the moment you can't join a league if a war is on going. Although Wiz said a while ago that he's going to change it so that you can join a league even if the war is ongoing. I had been in three consecutive war for 15 years and hadn't been able to join the league, since I was at war and while I was finishing my last war the war fired... and the protestants lost.

 

[WhiteHojo]

What does "no one that has a truce with the emperor" mean

I would think that means no one who is affiliated with(a member of) the opposing league shall have a truce with the emperor. If you were the emperor then you would need to ensure you stay peaceful with the opposite league members. If you are not the emperor then I assume it's up to the AI gods as to whether the Emperor stays out of harms way long enough for the final event to fire

 

[ThuderLizard2]

Right now I attacked every league member individually or in groups so there are now NO protestant league members at all yet I still have this G*D D**M league. This mechanism totally sucks.

 

[ThuderLizard2]

Originally Posted by WhiteHojo
I would think that means no one who is affiliated with(a member of) the opposing league shall have a truce with the emperor.

It's 1684 and I have no truces with all four league members. However, I have truces with Timurids and others. This may mean no-one meaning any country in which case I'd have to wait until 16098 doing nothing

 

[StatikShocker]

as an update, the wars ended about 120 years later, when we had removed every catholic nation from the game.

this is broken.

 

[ThuderLizard2]

Originally Posted by StatikShocker
the wars ended about 120 years later, when we had removed every catholic nation from the game

So if I removed all protestants it might trigger?

 

[Illianor123]

It was about 25 years in my games.

 

[StatikShocker]

So if I removed all protestants it might trigger?

perhaps. if there are muslims or others on their side, you might have to kill them too.