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Isn't Huey Long's economic ideology basic as far leftist (by our world's political standards) as Syndicalism is? Isn't his program basically "right-wing" syndicalism because it lacks the internationalist flavor, and is able to coexist with more regressive people such as Fritz Kuhn?

In fact, is easy to see six alliances in KR: Syndies, Entente, Mitteleuropa, Catholic Bloc, Fascist Axis (AUS, Wrangel's Russia, jingoistic Japan...) and Theocratic East (Mongolia, Tibet, Shangqing...). It only needs some additional modding.

Excellent ideas for alliances, but I have to quibble. Sharing theocracy as a government type doesn't guarantee cooperation- especially when Tibet and the Tianguo have very different religions that their theocracies are based upon! And I think a fascist/national-populist axis is possible, but a Russo-Japanese alliance doesn't have to be based upon being fascist. I think I can see a somewhat militarist Japan with a resurgent Russia (whether democratic, neo-imperial, or national-populist) cooperating against Germany and China.
 
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Both the far left and far right believe in state control over the economy (just check Mussolini's ideas on the economy).

National Populism isn't a single ideology, like totalism. It is quite possible for two National Populist countries to have severe disputes. NP Russia and Japan are more likely towage war with eachother (Kurilles, Primorsk etc) that to cooperate. Democratic Japan and Russia however...
 

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It's basically the Kaiserreich equivalent of HOI2's "Stalinism"

It's Kaiserreich equivalent to HoI2 Communism. ;)

Isn't Huey Long's economic ideology basic as far leftist (by our world's political standards) as Syndicalism is? Isn't his program basically "right-wing" syndicalism because it lacks the internationalist flavor, and is able to coexist with more regressive people such as Fritz Kuhn?

Just like OTL "far right" politics. In fact, politics is a circle where the ends meet. And yes, AUS is highly unstable since it has the support of contradictory factions.

Excellent ideas for alliances, but I have to quibble. Sharing theocracy as a government type doesn't guarantee cooperation- especially when Tibet and the Tianguo have very different religions that their theocracies are based upon! And I think a fascist/national-populist axis is possible, but a Russo-Japanese alliance doesn't have to be based upon being fascist. I think I can see a somewhat militarist Japan with a resurgent Russia (whether democratic, neo-imperial, or national-populist) cooperating against Germany and China.

Cooperation between Sternberg Mongolia and Tibet is a fact. Even in early 20's in OTL Tibet helped Sternberg agaisnt the Chinese and the Commies. And since the very beginning Sterberg wanted to intervene in China in order to restore the Qing, because he felt they were the only absolutist enough to restore order and faith (Buddhist faith). But with the German "support", the Qing had become weak and decadent, not lik the Sangqing, who remain loyal to faith and their oriental roots (Sternberg was obsessed with the corruption and decadence of Western world, not like the pure, absolutistic and faithful East).

I know it wouldn't be an stable and trustful alliance, but being convenience friends is a posibility.

About Russia And Japan, well, in OTL Japan wasn't fascist, just militaristic and jingoistic, just like one path of KR. I can see fascist Russia with that Japan, or democratic Russia with democratic Japan, but no a mix.

Both the far left and far right believe in state control over the economy (just check Mussolini's ideas on the economy).

National Populism isn't a single ideology, like totalism. It is quite possible for two National Populist countries to have severe disputes. NP Russia and Japan are more likely towage war with eachother (Kurilles, Primorsk etc) that to cooperate. Democratic Japan and Russia however...

Far Right is just a nationalist version of Far Left. :p
 

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Okay, you've convinced me. an evil eastern theocratic bloc under von Sternberg's Mongolia sounds like a great idea! I wonder what other nations they can rope in- perhaps Turkestan and other former Russian territories in Central Asia? I guess the main objectives of this bloc would be to expand at the expense of China, but what eventually ends up happening is that a Russo-Japanese alliance is formed to counter it. As evil as von Sternberg is, however, I don't seem him lasting long against that bloc, unless he causes great instability and revolt to happen to Russia's far eastern territories. Also, while a democratic R-J alliance against this bloc would be cool, having a right-wing/militarist alliance against it would be even more interesting, a lot of shades of grey there as you would have to figure out which is the lesser of two evils.
 

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Okay, you've convinced me. an evil eastern theocratic bloc under von Sternberg's Mongolia sounds like a great idea! I wonder what other nations they can rope in- perhaps Turkestan and other former Russian territories in Central Asia? I guess the main objectives of this bloc would be to expand at the expense of China, but what eventually ends up happening is that a Russo-Japanese alliance is formed to counter it. As evil as von Sternberg is, however, I don't seem him lasting long against that bloc, unless he causes great instability and revolt to happen to Russia's far eastern territories. Also, while a democratic R-J alliance against this bloc would be cool, having a right-wing/militarist alliance against it would be even more interesting, a lot of shades of grey there as you would have to figure out which is the lesser of two evils.

That's the point.

Since Sternberg was quite liberal in religious affairs (Except for Jews and Atheists), isn't bizarre to see him ally with Muslims (In fact, in OTL he dreamed with a Holy Eastern Empire which included Muslims).

This faction should be something like: Mongolia + Tibet + Shanqing + Turkestan + ... ¿Perhaps a theocratic coup in the Princely Federation? ¿Or a Malasian yihad against the Dutch? ¿Africa? Who knows.
 

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Well, they don't all have to be theocratic states, I thought it was mostly an anti-Russian/Qing bloc that happens to be dominated by theocracies. So former Russian empire nations like Alash Orda may be open to joining.

Alternatively, if you want to emphasize von Sternberg's cultural/religious mysticism and obsessions, he could try to find allies among the Indian states, try to sponsor revolts there by a sufficiently religious and/or theocratic faction. Shades of Hitler and esoteric fascism, there.
 

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Well, they don't all have to be theocratic states, I thought it was mostly an anti-Russian/Qing bloc that happens to be dominated by theocracies. So former Russian empire nations like Alash Orda may be open to joining.

Alternatively, if you want to emphasize von Sternberg's cultural/religious mysticism and obsessions, he could try to find allies among the Indian states, try to sponsor revolts there by a sufficiently religious and/or theocratic faction. Shades of Hitler and esoteric fascism, there.

Being Turkestan so close, a cosmopolite, modern and westernized Alash Orda seems a weird ally for Sternberg. About India, it seems a logical move, but my knownledge about Indian religions is really tiny.
 

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The alliance between Sternbergs Mongolia and Tibet was based on Sternbergs reallife fascination with Bhuddism, which is also one of Mongolia's largest religions. An alliance with other theocratic states isn't that plausible, although Mongolia has a chance to ally with either Alash Orda or Turkestan during their war. This alliance would be based on the fact Mongolians are Altaïc people, just as the Kazakh and Turkmen are.
I doubt the Shanqqing are interested in working with a Russian madman ruling an area that was Chinese for centuries.
 

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FlyingDutchie said:
The alliance between Sternbergs Mongolia and Tibet was based on Sternbergs reallife fascination with Bhuddism, which is also one of Mongolia's largest religions. An alliance with other theocratic states isn't that plausible, although Mongolia has a chance to ally with either Alash Orda or Turkestan during their war. This alliance would be based on the fact Mongolians are Altaïc people, just as the Kazakh and Turkmen are.
I doubt the Shanqqing are interested in working with a Russian madman ruling an area that was Chinese for centuries.

I hate "Serve is too busy" error. Not only it destroys the message, it destroys what you copy too...

So I must rewrite all my post. I'm sorry if it is coarse, rough or sharp. Stupid useless update.

First: Alliance between Tibet and Stenberg was a fact even in OTL. The elite troops of Stenberg's Asian Cavalry Division were 400 tibetan warriors ended by the Dalai Lama to help him.

Second: Stenberg find a little thing being Turkmen or Kazakh. Probably he won't even know both are Altaic, in fact, he probably didn't know that the Mongol are Altaic. In OTL, the dreamed Holy Empire of Stenberg included Uigurs, Tuvans, Mongols, Chinese, Russians, etc. And he tried to ally with Tibet, Manchurian Warlords and the Japanese. Race means nearly nothing for Stenberg (Aside the Jews).

Third: The core values of Stenberg were three: Monarchy, absolutism and faith. If you share this three values, despite what faith you follow (Jews aside), you are a good person. If not, you have sold your sold to Evil and you must perish. Stenberg hates things like democracy or republic. And what Stenberg hates, Stenberg kills. And since western civilization was (And is) full of this things, he depissed the "corrupt" West and idealized the "pure" East. In fact, he believed that the fall of Tsarist Russia was because her westernization.

Fourth: The Shanqing aren't in postion to negotiate nothing. They are a bunch of militias isolated in the mountains and surrounded by enemies. Even if they wanted to reunite all the former Qing empire, even if they hate him (And most Shanqings wouldn't do that, remember that the Bogd Khan, the hightest authority of Mongolian Bhuddism, proclaimed that Stenberg was a reincarnation of the same Lama he himself was. That is, the most important Mongolian Lama. Mix that with a prophecy about a white warrior who will come from the North in order to save Bhuddism and the general believe among the Mongolians that Stenberg was that white warrior [And if I remember well, this "white warrior" was a general from the Shambala's King of the World himself]. Even today, some people worship him as a demigod), even if they plan to overthrow him, that doesn't meant denying Mongolian help. At least temporally...