So the Muscovy thread got me thinking: If France is #1, who is #2? And who is #3?

[ErikHeinrichs]

1 Ottoman
2 France/England
3 Ming (if you know what you are doing)
4 Poland/Commonwealth
5 Castile/Spain

 

[Pornek]

And for people thinking England is the second most powerful country in the world. Are you insane?

- Apparently now the richest country in the game at 1444.
- Ability to PU France
- If usual Inheritance happens instant possiblity to become Emporer since you can fabricate on Austria (Calais).
- With France easy to steamroll Iberia.

Ideas are rather uminportant if you want to evaluate the potential of a country.

If you think France is #1 why should a country that can PU France "day 1" be anything lower then #2.