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So instead of getting more depth with the actual campaign like more options for EVERYTHING specially in peace time, we are getting a The Old Gods refurbished ?

Can't believe it. Will wait for official announcement or fuck up.
 

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So instead of getting more depth with the actual campaign like more options for EVERYTHING specially in peace time, we are getting a The Old Gods refurbished ?

Can't believe it. Will wait for official announcement or fuck up.
Please do, because it would be pretty foolish to judge the expansion before it's even been announced. It sounds to me like this expansion would be pretty far-reaching (hence the lofty pricetag) in the features it would include in order to simulate the events that happened in the late 700s.
 

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What if...
At start, all appropriate Christian faiths that eventually split into Catholic/Orthodox simply start as "Christian" (or whatever would be appropriate for the time).

Chalcedonian or Melkite. Christian is far too generic and besides, it is already a group name.

Much like how the Orthodox faith has different Patriarchs for different regions, "Christian" will be sub-divided into similar Patriarch domains, with the majority of Western Europe falling under the Patriarch of Rome.

Hmm... It could work since the Quinisext Council in Trullo came into affect not too long ago, but it should be somewhat different from the autocephaly system perhaps a bit looser.

And then, the split. Either there's a MTTH to represent the ever-growing divide between East and West cultures, or certain player/AI actions can accelerate it (attack on Eastern Patriarchs? A "Split Score" that increases for every dishonorable act?). The Eastern Patriarchs remain as Patriarchs under the now-renamed Orthodoxy, whereas the Patriarch of Rome becomes independent and takes his followers into Catholicism.

I don't think that's possible. Instead what about a split where Melkites in certain region and opinion of whoever becomes of that religion? As for how it happens, it could be semi-historical events (fiction based on history like the Joan of Arc), an action which causes tension (I have no idea what), et cetera.
 

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if its really dark ages i hope they at least give us new depth stuff aswell.... i dont want a longer boring game i want an exciting game =( more rpg stuff to do more events more decisions
 

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No matter how you define the Dark Ages, I think the 8th century qualifies, so I'm declaring victory. For now. On to the 7th century!

Plus, there's Lombards, Picts, Visigoths, Saxons. And the game will just *have* to cover the Iconoclastic controversy. Plus, there's plenty going on in the rest of the world. Can't help but notice that its the height of the Tang...
 

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No matter how you define the Dark Ages, I think the 8th century qualifies, so I'm declaring victory. For now. On to the 7th century!

Plus, there's Lombards, Picts, Visigoths, Saxons. And the game will just *have* to cover the Iconoclastic controversy. Plus, there's plenty going on in the rest of the world. Can't help but notice that its the height of the Tang...

And that brings me...the Schims could be easily included.
 

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Schism will definitely not be in the game, and it was most certainly power hungry Pope diverging from the Eastern Church not the other way around :)
 

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And that brings me...the Schims could be easily included.

I sure hope so! Plus, they're going to have to handle large empires better, what with the Abbasids being monstrously huge at this point.
 

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Schism will definitely not be in the game, and it was most certainly power hungry Pope diverging from the Eastern Church not the other way around :)

You've still got to deal with the Iconoclasm controversy, and the issues related to that.
 

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