So if we're really buffing Bavaria, can we take another look at their ideas?

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Those new ideas look nice, not a single useless one, I think I'll give Bavaria a try first in the next patch.

Also remember that Bavaria is getting more provinces in the update so they may indeed become a regional power or at least survive Austria in the hands of the AI now.
 
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In my games Bavaria either gets eaten (which makes sense as it borders the BWB) or blobs themselves, eating away Switzerland and expanding very ugly into Germany.
 

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It's weird that Burgundy gets broken up but Bavaria doesn't. Must be part of the odd Paradox "balance".
 

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It's weird that Burgundy gets broken up but Bavaria doesn't. Must be part of the odd Paradox "balance".

I think it was just to show off the new tags in the Low Countries. I hope.

But what else could you break Bavaria into?
 

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Well historically Bavaria wasn't united from 1392 until 1506. It was seperated in 4 Duchies: Bavaria-Straubing, Bavaria-Landshut, Bavaria-Ingolstadt and Bavaria Munich.
752px-Bayern_nach_der_Teilung_1392.png
 

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I think it was just to show off the new tags in the Low Countries. I hope.
Seems odd to go through all the trouble of setting up personal unions just to show off the 1 new tag in Picardie in two diaries that have nothing to do with Burgundy. And not even mention it in the diaries.
 

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Seems odd to go through all the trouble of setting up personal unions just to show off the 1 new tag in Picardie in two diaries that have nothing to do with Burgundy. And not even mention it in the diaries.

Hence the hope. Though it does raise the question of how this will affect the Burgundian Inheritance.
 

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Two things:

1. "Everlating" should probably be "everlasting" in their legitimacy.

2. Can't their traditions be a weeeeeeeee bit better? 10% cavalry combat and 25% heir chance aren't exactly the best.
 
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Interesting. New ides for nations now. They look good, maybe a little more boost would be cool, but looks doable.
I vote blue for Bavaria.
they wore blue jackets for their infantry in 30yw so.....:oops:
 

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Well historically Bavaria wasn't united from 1392 until 1506. It was seperated in 4 Duchies: Bavaria-Straubing, Bavaria-Landshut, Bavaria-Ingolstadt and Bavaria Munich.
752px-Bayern_nach_der_Teilung_1392.png

As Bavaria-Staubling had already disappeared and been divided by the other three by game's start (1429), and Bavaria-Ingolstadt was for all intents and purposes gone by game's start (Ludwig VII of B-I had been betrayed by his son Ludwig VIII to Heinrich XVI of Bavaria-Landshut in 1443; Ludwig VIII of B-I was basically a vassal of B-L after that and died only a few months into the game in April 1445, while his father languished in a prison in Landshut until he died in 1447, at which point Heinrich XVI annexed B-I outright), you would only really need Bavaria-Munich and Bavaria-Landshut at game start.
 
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You know, I find it weird that Saxony is split, while Austria and Bavaria are united. And now Hesse will be split too. Why is it so inconsistent?