So if we're really buffing Bavaria, can we take another look at their ideas?

[TheMeInTeam]

Prestige +1 used to be trash tier, but not since El Dorado. Keeping that high w/o things adding to it is possible, but a real pain and not super consistent.

 

[Me_]

+5% imperial authority looks like something that should be a part of a two-bonus idea, like +15% better relations ans +5% imperial authority, rather than an ambition. It's especially weird, since its the last idea, and yet it's so weak.

 

[AlphaSonic]

While they are a bit weak, saying that a +1 prestige idea is weak is not true. It means you will average about 10-20 prestige higher tjan those without it.

Inflation reduction and combat ability sucks though, so bavaria amongst others will be tweaked.

Please remove that from Aragon too.

 

[RyanX]

If Bavaria got too much of a buff, it would become blobvaria.

Hardly, Bavaria has literally no manpower as is. Their largest province has a base of 50. Good luck blobbing with that.

 

[ArtayOfficial]

Historically, Bavaria holds Austrian lands before independence, so maybe few claims/cores in Austria?

 

[Me_]

Hardly, Bavaria has literally no manpower as is. Their largest province has a base of 50. Good luck blobbing with that.

That's what mercenaries are for. But we will not see Blobvaria anyway, because it borders both Austria and Bohemia and will once again start the game rivalled by both.

 

[spyroware1]

Also change its colour to this sexy shade blue { 60 130 200 }

 

[Johan]

Also change its colour to this sexy shade blue { 60 130 200 }

hell no.

Hardly, Bavaria has literally no manpower as is. Their largest province has a base of 50. Good luck blobbing with that.

Well, in the next expansion you can spend mil power to increase your base manpower.

 

[Johan]

This is what Bavaria looks like in our internal builds.

BAV_ideas = {
   start = {
     cavalry_power = 0.1
     heir_chance = 0.25
   }
   
   bonus = {
     development_cost = -0.1
   }
   
   trigger = {
     tag = BAV
   }
   free = yes
   
   everlating_succeession = {
     legitimacy = 1
   }
   bavarian_purity_law = {
     production_efficiency = 0.1
   }
   bavarian_state_orchestra = {
     prestige = 1
   }
   geistlicher_rat = {
     global_heretic_missionary_strength = 0.03
     papal_influence = 1
   }
   brewmaster_general = {
     global_tax_modifier = 0.1
   }
   professional_army = {
     discipline = 0.05
   }
   royal_order_of_st_george = {
     stability_cost_modifier = -0.10
   }
}

 

[Me_]

Are there any other new modifier beside development cost reduction being added in 1.12?

 

[Emiliana]

This is not correct really. House wittelsbach was very interested in becoming emperor for most of the empires lifetime but looking only at the duchy of bavaria we can find one example in the timeframe where a Bavarian lord actually became the emperor http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_VII,_Holy_Roman_Emperor

although he was descended from the HabsburgPhilip I of Castile twenty-seven different ways)

LOL ew.

 

[zdlugasz]

This is what Bavaria looks like in our internal builds.

...

Quick unrelated question to Johan (as you are here)
- will Random New World ever get higher number of provinces?

 

[IsadorBG]

that's +3 missionary strengh against heretic in the fourth idea slot ? Wow the tradition is still very meh but the idea and ambition got quite the buff indeed.

 

[AlphaSonic]

So basically the only change was the development cost. I'd rather have +2% global missionary strenght than +3% against heretics

 

[Me_]

So basically the only change was the development cost. I'd rather have +2% global missionary strenght than +3% against heretics

Also, cost of reducing inflation was repleaced with +0.25 heir chance.

 

[Xinkc]

that's +3 missionary strengh against heretic in the fourth idea slot ? Wow the tradition is still very meh but the idea and ambition got quite the buff indeed.

When much of your neighbors are the same group as you, it's pretty strong.

 

[RyanX]

Even reduced build cost would be preferable. Bavaria should be one of those "tall empires" we keep hearing about, not a blob.

 

[Zwirbaum]

Even reduced build cost would be preferable. Bavaria should be one of those "tall empires" we keep hearing about, not a blob.

There is reduced development cost as ambition, so it is cheaper to increase base tax, production and manpower for Bavaria.

 

[klingonadmiral]

Ideas look fine mr. Johan, but please change Bavaria to blue. I personally use 161 212 220. Everything better than that disgusting brown.

 

[Trunting]

Bavaria was also emperor under Louis the Bayuware