So i am absolutely required to have something to deal with Ethics Divergence now?

[Diezy]

Individal ethic should be right up your alley, they are excellent at living through Ethics Divergence. Can do fun things like having Deviant for bonus free traits, and Encourage Free Thought always on! They do as they like and have no problems with me. My first colony has long since been fully deviated, I cannot find anyone with the original ethic Individual/Fanatic Militarist set! Sometimes there's Xenophobia, and they faction a bit from it, but it's not much of a big deal.

United Nations of Earth are the most user-friendly and care-free if divergence annoys you, as you can ignore it with almost no effort (just Visitor Centers to curb Xenophobia unhappiness). You should try them

Otherwise, Factions are very cheap in terms of influence costs to suppress, later on, Ministry of Benevolence comes up for Collectivsts. And Will to Power. You can drop some Happiness/Propaganda Edicts and Social Welfare and everyone obeys you in late-game, even in the frontier worlds!

Individual+Xenophile combination, or even on their own, make for very easy governing!

 

[Secret Master]

Yeah, I don't really have problems with ethical divergence, even if I don't run reductions to it.

Either run an individualist empire so ethical divergence doesn't matter, suppress factions, run reductions to ethical divergence, specifically increase divergence so no POPs have the same ethos and join the same factions, or just shoot them.

This does not even factor in using slavery to make factions and ethics less important.

 

[Frozen Fallout]

Still have the problem of that Fanatic Ethic destroying itself. I find that when ED comes into play it targets that fanatic ethos first, and once that ethic is gone from the POP it then starts having problems with the government. Its the same problem as when Individualist had the direct ED penalty, it converts itself out of existence. It just happens slower now.

This is incorrect. Fan Individualist gives an Empire bonus to policy penalty from ED. The pop bonus is to energy production.

Source: http://www.stellariswiki.com/Ethos

I normally run Spiritual or Individualist. With Spiritual if you are Fan and Divine you still need to worry about ED late game on far away and newly conquered planets. Individualists don't really need to worry at all about ED. I haven't ever done it but I guess you could go micro on core planets and make sure the Pops are all using their bonus correctly from ethos but it will be forever changing so its allot of micro. I just let them swing all over the place with Individualist.

If you don't go either of those two Ethos you will have ED issues as you grow but its not that bad at all. Faction system is not powerful and the happiness penalties are not that hard to overcome mid game.

From my understanding ED is going out the window and Pops are now getting divergence from actions and situations rather then distance from cap and your Ethos choice. Factions will also be overhalled so they are not just rebels but different groups with different wants and needs you will need to fulfill.

 

[Kat Tsun]

Presumably, increase local attraction towards your government's Ethos.

Isn't this what negative ED does currently?

 

[BlackUmbrellas]

Isn't this what negative ED does currently?

Mind you, I'm theorizing on the possible impact of 1.5 on this:

Currently, Ethics Divergence is a per-planet, planet-wide factor; if you have negative Divergence, the POPs on that planet will drift towards their Ethos being identical to your Empire's Ethos. If you have positive, they'll drift away.

In 1.5, we know that each POP's ethics are individually calculated- the ethos all have an empire-wide attraction level, with your core, empire-level Ethos having a much higher attraction by default. This means that a larger portion of your empire will align themselves with them, then modified by other attractions and local conditions (i.e., the attraction to Xenophilia is higher on worlds that have unenslaved aliens cohabitating with your POPs).

Hence, we can potentially infer that the closest analogue to the existing way the Mind Control Laser works would be for it to boost the attraction of your empire-level Ethos on the planet it is installed on. This does not gaurantee all POPs being members of your empire-level Ethos on that planet- some might still represent other Ethos (because if you 5% attraction to an ethos other than your core ones, 5% of your population will be members of it usually)

 

[Pchang]

Just do things to keep your pops happy and ethics divergence problems go away. By mid game when my planet blob makes ethics divergence an issue, I can almost always afford Social Welfare programs as long as I'm not at war. After conquering and absorbing my first Fallen Empire (or Awakened Fallen Empire), their incredible homeworld production allows me to run Social Welfare even when I am at war. In addition, if you don't build too many frontier outposts, you can easily afford the influence points needed to suppress any unruly factions.