So does unit/mercenary cost effect the maintenance?

[hashinshin]

I've heard conflicting truths aobut this. Does -25% mercenary cost, for example, also give -25% to the maintenance of the unit?

 

[Golladan]

Mercenary recruitment cost is based on the base unit cost and mercenary cost modifiers.

Mercenary maintenance cost is based on the maintenance cost of regular units (after modifiers) and mercenary maintenance modifiers.

Mercenary cost does not affect mercenary maintenance.

 

[hashinshin]

Well that annoys me. Byzantine should really have mercenary maintenance then instead of mercenary cost because Byzantine had standing mercenary armies, they weren't hiring out mercenaries any more than other countries were.

The smallest gripes.

 

[Pilon23]

Unit cost definitely affects unit maintenance cost. I watched it go down with my own two eyes! (Never actually looked if mercenary maintenance went down)

Edit: Anyhow, very easy way to test it if you're curious. Pick any nation. Start date 1550+ (to make sure you get access to idea group asap). Buy 1 merc. Open console. Write Adm 400. Pick administrative ideas and pick 1 idea. Check if maintenance cost went down.

 

[hashinshin]

well I tested it, and I'm pretty convinced maintenance is not effected by cost.

 

[Schmoekoeksklok]

For normal units, there are three different modifiers to cost. There's recruitment cost, which only works on hiring (recruiting!); maintenance cost, which only works on maintenance; and regiment cost, which works on both. For mercenaries there are only the first two, except the first one is (confusingly) simply named "mercenary cost" rather then "mercenary recruitment cost". Possibly because that would be very long

 

[Clownie]

^

Incorrect. There is no 'recruitment cost' modifier that doesn't alter maintenance; maintenance is a function of base unit cost. If you reduce the cost of infantry, you also reduce the cost of infantry maintenance. Regiment cost is the same, it just works on all unit types.

 

[hashinshin]

Well I just tested it and the mercenary cost was NOT reducing my military upkeep, but the mercenary maintanance WAS reducing my maintenance.

 

[Pilon23]

mercenary maintenance cost per month= regular maintenance cost per month* (100% + 150% for being mercenary + other mercenary maintenance modifiers)

Copy+paste from the wiki. Strange that unit maintenance cost per month reduces mercenary maintenance, but that mercenary cost doesn't. Probably not worth making a petition over, but still... eerie..

 

[Less]

-25% unit cost = -25% maintenance for both normal and mercs.
-25% land unit maintenance = -25% maintenance for both normal and mercs.
-25% merc maintenance = -10% merc maintenance (because it starts at 250%, 250-25 = 225 for a 10% less cost overall).
-25% merc cost = No change in merc maintenance.

All effects stack additively with effects of the same type and multiplicatively with the other effect types.

Not sure how -regiment cost stacks with -infantry cost and likewise off the top of my head. I would guess additively.