So does AI Ming still suck?

[toroltao]

I hate seeing China collapse into border gore or ahistoric borders every game.

Has this been fixed yet?

At least have Qing form naturally for once.

And why is Northern Yuan still called Mongolia. Like holy shit they have 3 different nations for Manchu now but can't be bothered to give Mongolia its proper name?

 

[uishax]

China doesn't 'implode' anymore because the retarded trio of revolters are gone, though Zhou and Xi still exist. While China now has ethnic minorities, most of them are without cores and don't revolt into nationalism.
The mandate loss is much less severe now because it doesn't reduce legitimacy, so its possible to get out of it.

since factions are less important now, Ming can function normally even if it doesn't know how to use factions.

 

[unmerged(463193)]

ai qing rarely forms because the hordes rarely unite into one. also, the hordes don't get new unit types, meaning they get stomped by korea/ming/japan after 1500.

 

[toroltao]

ai qing rarely forms because the hordes rarely unite into one. also, the hordes don't get new unit types, meaning they get stomped by korea/ming/japan after 1500.

That sounds awful. Japan conquering north asia alone is enough to make me vomit.

 

[uishax]

ai qing rarely forms because the hordes rarely unite into one. also, the hordes don't get new unit types, meaning they get stomped by korea/ming/japan after 1500.

All they need to do is give Jianzhou lucky, how hard can that be?

 

[toroltao]

ai qing rarely forms because the hordes rarely unite into one. also, the hordes don't get new unit types, meaning they get stomped by korea/ming/japan after 1500.

Why don't hordes get new unit types?

 

[solidprice]

Why don't hordes get new unit types?

^^^^^

 

[unmerged(243999)]

All they need to do is give Jianzhou lucky, how hard can that be?

Only Europe gets lucky nation status, duh.

 

[deezee]

All they need to do is give Jianzhou lucky, how hard can that be?

+1 to this; their rise to power is probably more impressive than that of some of the existing lucky nations

 

[ahyangyi]

Only Europe gets lucky nation status, duh.

1444 Ottoman was arguably more Asian than European, I guess.

 

[toroltao]

I think it would be ok if China imploded into rebels, but there should be an impetus to reunite China as fast as possible so that it doesn't just get eaten up by hordes or remain border gore.

 

[Novacat]

Why don't hordes get new unit types?

Because Paradox hates hordes.

Has this been fixed yet?

It is improved, but in the sense that Ming upgraded from wet paper tiger to dry paper tiger, it is still a paper tiger that will topple over to the first foreign invader.