So after 2,5 years and ~800 hours I uninstalled
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Given that they've had some of the highest average player numbers since 2.2, I don't think anyone here can say it's unplayable for most players or that the update is terrible on a fundamental level. That's not to discount the folks who have had severe performance issues, nor is it to say everything is bug-free and hunky dory (it desperately needs like 3 patches). But I suspect the forums overstate how much dislike there actually is for 2.2. Most people don't post in the forums and don't get extremely angry when their favorite form of entertainment isn't working the way they'd like. They just do something else or enjoy it as it is.
Well, for single players there's a lot of new stuff to simply try, which is still better than having a stale game, even if it doesn't quite work.
I did the same today. Deleted Stellaris at 1288 hours. It is my third most played Paradox game but now bye bye. Maybe use all that free space on computer and install Warhammer 2. Or a game in CK2. That may keep me busy for 2 weeks.
The only count that is available is a steam chart and it shows an immediate drop right after release as well as a very obvious fall off of players buying the dlc's overall, this is far from the "highest average player numbers" and it would be nice if people used actual statistics instead of their opinion.
nothing is being overstated, the game is unplayable for the majority of players (more than half)
You accuse me of making up stats and then you pull a number out of your ass regarding number of players who cannot play the game. You have absolutely no way of knowing how many people seem the game unplayable.
https://steamcharts.com/app/281990
I couldn't disagree more. if you're going to define "playable" as various gameplay loops being intact then yes the game is playable. As a whole product it is in no way playable. Ignoring subjective experiences regarding lag, various core features simply do not function. You cannot play Stellaris, you can only play a portion of it.
The game is like Minecraft stuck on Peaceful mode with all the Nether content blocked off.
That's honestly just your opinion. I've played more on 2.2 than I did on 2.1. There are some bugs but most of the game works for me. There aren't huge swathes that don't work. That's needless hyperbole and subjective at best.
@ Spacemadness: You seem to be using "playable" to mean something other than people being able to play and enjoy the game. Being able to use every feature of something isn't generally the way such words work. A car isn't undriveable if the radio and AC are broken, for instance.
That chart clearly shows that it is less than the best peak average, you claimed it was more, you are also only looking at 30 days, the dlc is less than 30 days old. if you look at the daily numbers you will see the average is less than half of the player count on dlc release, and while it may be conjecture to say that they all stopped playing almost immediately because of the bugs, it still shows the drop.
maybe next time you should learn to read charts before calling people names.
Probably and they probably need a week to read through the forum and feedback we gave them. I wouldn't expect a communication until next week. Nothing meaningful anyways.
Well, that works... but it's also purely subjective, right? I like playing 2.2 more than playing 2.0, so it's not only playable, it's more playable. (If I didn't feel that way, I'd have reverted or maybe just booted up CivIV or some such.)
Civ6 is about £150 if you buy all of it at full. With the typical £ to Euro rate, that's got to be close to 200Euro.
It's still higher than it was for most of 2018. Many people are playing and continue to play despite the buggy state.
I didn't call anyone names. I know how to read charts.
Different people look for different things in games. Not everyone plays for the same reasons, and what's enjoyable (and seemingly playable) for some is filled with bugs, inconsistencies, and frustration for me. What I think we can agree on is what Paradox has promised vs what has been delivered, and what has been delivered has consistently been far less than what has been promised both due to game-play decisions and bugs that limit the playability of the game. If you enjoy what has been delivered please keep doing so. For others like me, it's important that Paradox understand our frustration and work to restore the game to a playable state, the state that was promised to us many times over from the day the game was first announced and in every DLC and patch since.
The number of downvotes on things like "I haven't found the game unplayable" and "you can't actually say how many people find the game unplayable" is ridiculous. Who here has actual statistics on the number of players who find the game unplayable? Nobody does. That's the correct answer.
...am I misreading this chart?
DLC releases 6th of december, and there's a massive uptick in people playing. (Or at least opening the game to install the DLC and try it.)
Over the next week it drops off as expected post release as people now have the expansion installed and the novelty wears off - and they go back to normal play.
Then over the rest of the month to date it trails off to *where it was pre DLC*. That's not a massive or rapid decline.
Conversely, if you look at the release of Distant Stars, you can just about see it on the play chart, and there was no peak for release, just a continual reduction in players.
In fact for most expansions there doesn't seem to be a peak at release date - but rather a hump *before* release that then decreases through release and beyond.
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