So... About that price.

[Nyrael]

I also want to point out that not every company is as greedy as Paradox.
Many companies do not set €1 to $1.
There is a website called steamprices (google it because I fear of getting an infraction for posting an external link) which lets you compare Steam prices in different currencies.

Even big companies that publish hits like Total War Rome II, Skyrim or Football Manager 15 acknowledge the fact that the Euro is stronger than the Dollar and therefore they have adapted their prices accordingly.
Even upcoming titles Like Borderlands: The Prequel have different prices for the European market: $59.99 compared to €49.99

In fact, Paradox is just abusing Europeans by charging extra high € prices.

If you think this is enough to declare what company is greedy and what ain't then you are looking quite narrowly at it

The thing is, the whole €/$ problem is VERY prevalent on Steam, to the point that I am not buying that the problem is in the Publishers. Too many games follow that policy and the problem doesn't occur, in such a magnitude at least, anywhere else... and that's without mentioning that Steam itself defended the whole $ = € deal. There was a lot of discussion about this, none of them having anything to do with Paradox Interactive.
And the big companies are really a horrible example: it is easy for them to buy themselves special privileges, all while looking like a nice and honorable publisher.

 

[Cidellus]

I don't know, I think charging half the price of the game for a DLC is rather greedy. I don't think Art of War adds nearly enough to justify that kind of price tag. Particularly since the last few DLCs have been kind of disappointing. :\

I'll be waiting til a steam sale, I guess.

 

[Mauer]

I also want to point out that not every company is as greedy as Paradox.
Many companies do not set €1 to $1.
There is a website called steamprices (google it because I fear of getting an infraction for posting an external link) which lets you compare Steam prices in different currencies.

Even big companies that publish hits like Total War Rome II, Skyrim or Football Manager 15 acknowledge the fact that the Euro is stronger than the Dollar and therefore they have adapted their prices accordingly.
Even upcoming titles Like Borderlands: The Prequel have different prices for the European market: $59.99 compared to €49.99

In fact, Paradox is just abusing Europeans by charging extra high € prices.

The Euro was worth much more than it is now when those titles were launched, plus the Euro is going to go down to about 1.2 USD in the next few months. Maybe their sales department is taking this into account.

 

[delpiero1234]

The Euro was worth much more than it is now when those titles were launched,

Like I said, Borderland: The Prequel, a big upcoming title, can be preordered for $59.99 and €49.99.
Football Manager 15, one of my other example, is also an upcoming title. The only old titles in the list of games I mentioned are Skyrim and Total War Rome II. Your argument of saying that these titles are old is more than poor because as you can see this also applies to upcoming titles.

plus the Euro is going to go down to about 1.2 USD in the next few months. Maybe their sales department is taking this into account.

Your argument saying that the Euro is in decline is also quite false. It's constantly going up and down if you take a closer look at the 5-year EUR/USD chart then you will notice that there have been many ups and downs but the Dollar was never stronger than the Euro (just google EUR/USD Chart)

 

[Mauer]

Your argument saying that the Euro is in decline is also quite false. It's constantly going up and down if you take a closer look at the 5-year EUR/USD chart then you will notice that there have been many ups and downs but the Dollar was never stronger than the Euro (just google EUR/USD Chart)

I never said a US dollar will be worth more than an Euro, I said in the next few months the exchange rate will be 1.2, in a 5 year chart it's obviously just going to be a small blip. Europe is just beginning to lower their interest rate and the US about to start increasing them, trust me it's going down.

 

[Phibs]

Well starting in 2015 the VAT will be calculated in and paid to the country of customer residence, so that might mix things up.

20 € is kinda pricey, but looking at the features, it's sorta non-optional. And pdox knows it these crafty swedes

 

[TheChrisD]

20 euros? Seems I won't be buying that until some sale :/

Same here. I've bought all the previous expansions Day 1 - WoN (€10) and RP (€5) were worth it, but CoP (€15) didn't give me the same level of satisfaction for the money I spent; so I suspect AoW will be the same considering it's half the price of the base game...

 

[Tyber109]

I don't know, I think charging half the price of the game for a DLC is rather greedy. I don't think Art of War adds nearly enough to justify that kind of price tag. Particularly since the last few DLCs have been kind of disappointing. :\

I'll be waiting til a steam sale, I guess.

Why do you think $30 is too much? I feel the expansion is well worth the price.

 

[LastSalian]

20 bucks is what most of mainstream games cost when in bargain (ex. Blizzard titles), so it is really a little excessive.

Of course, lately EU4 gave more playing hours than any other game, except for Dota 2, and for a way better price, except for Dota 2 again. I value that. That's why I bought DLCs that I actually didn't even play like CoP, and cosmetics.

So if they make the game more dynamic (less waitersalis features), balance effort / retribution (i.e. westernization), so we have a feeling of proactive game design, rather than reactive, the price might be worth it.

 

[gnome109]

Suppose that's fair as Civ dlcs cost $30, and in terms of content AoW adds more than they did.

 

[Mortheim]

Oh, wow. I want those problems. Rub is so low now, that i will think rly long about buying it now (before 20€=800 rub, now 1020 rub).

 

[Neoton]

20 euros? Seems I won't be buying that until some sale :/

Same here. There is no way I am buying this DLC for 20 euros. I will stop playing EU4 for a few months and come back when it's on sale... :glare:

 

[Phibs]

Ru prices are drastically lower though, right? (steamprices says ck2 basegame 70% down in comparison to here)

 

[TheBoozehammer]

Can you guys comment on there being any minor DLC coming out at the same time, like unit or music packs?

 

[the cool guy]

Same here. I've bought all the previous expansions Day 1 - WoN (€10) and RP (€5) were worth it, but CoP (€15) didn't give me the same level of satisfaction for the money I spent; so I suspect AoW will be the same considering it's half the price of the base game...

AoW basically adds 2-3 times what WoN did. The reasons most people did not find CoP provided good value were because most of the improvements either required you to play specific nations that not many cared about or getting a more boring random world that looks terrible. AoW should prove worth it if you liked WoN.

 

[delpiero1234]

AoW basically adds 2-3 times what WoN did. The reasons most people did not find CoP provided good value were because most of the improvements either required you to play specific nations that not many cared about or getting a more boring random world that looks terrible. AoW should prove worth it if you liked WoN.

Still too expensive and a rip-off that Paradox charges $20/€20

 

[Kwami]

not true... wages are way lower in Italy

I picked a random country that uses the Euro. Substitute Italy with Germany or whatever other country works better.

And people wonder why the whole zone is a mess right now.

 

[the cool guy]

Still too expensive and a rip-off that Paradox charges $20/€20

While $20/€20 is a rip-off even for €20 i still feel i will get good value. Also GMG.

 

[Niebulheim]

I'll gladly pay 20$ for AoW. I'm really hoping this expansion pushes this game into my nr.1 spot.

 

[CzechKronner]

Considering the time I spend playing the game, 20 EUR for another DLC is peanuts. Insta-buy for me.