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It's so sad that a European company rips Europeans off. €1 is worth $1.27... I know you don't use the Euro in Sweden but come on, Johan!
It's more of a Steam's policy as far as I know, and considering that Paradox is now Steam-exclusive...
 

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Exchange rates are only a part of the story. You also need to consider VAT & other taxes and the purchasing power of $1 or €1 in the local economy. Prices in US$ and € tend to be similar because someone making US$50k in the States would make about €50k doing the same job in, say, Italy. Paradox, and any other business, would be throwing away money if they didn't take this into account.

This happens all over the world and in just about every industry.
 

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Exchange rates are only a part of the story. You also need to consider VAT & other taxes and the purchasing power of $1 or €1 in the local economy. Prices in US$ and € tend to be similar because someone making US$50k in the States would make about €50k doing the same job in, say, Italy. Paradox, and any other business, would be throwing away money if they didn't take this into account.

This happens all over the world and in just about every industry.

I'm not sure how steam does its math, but if CoP is 15€ they don't convert it for another currencies, for example, CoP is R$24,00 if they would convert it the price would be at least R$45,30
 

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It's more of a Steam's policy as far as I know, and considering that Paradox is now Steam-exclusive...
According to Steam, the publisher sets the price and not Valve.

I'm not sure how steam does its math, but if CoP is 15€ they don't convert it for another currencies, for example, CoP is R$24,00 if they would convert it the price would be at least R$45,30
Like I said, the price is completely up to the publisher of the game.
 

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One of my friends would say, suck on that, you European socialists. AMERICA IS FREEDOM.

Honestly though, I don't really know why it works like that. Some people say publishers get to set prices in each region based on market expectations if they want, but most just set one price and let Steam handle conversions, and Steam uses a 1 to 1 conversion even though the Euro is worth more because EU countries have 20% or more value added taxes. Which works out quite well right now because the Euro has dropped in value but didn't when it was still worth 1.5 USD.
 

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It's so worth it. Keep adding ROTW contents, I will even pay $30!

p.s. you should make it 19.99 and 29.99 like other companies :p
€20 is about $25, not $30.
They are not the same. :mad:
In a fair amount of pricing on Steam, they seem to be, though. I don't know enough about European taxation to say what effect that has here, though.
 

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I also want to point out that not every company is as greedy as Paradox.
Many companies do not set €1 to $1.
There is a website called steamprices (google it because I fear of getting an infraction for posting an external link) which lets you compare Steam prices in different currencies.

Even big companies that publish hits like Total War Rome II, Skyrim or Football Manager 15 acknowledge the fact that the Euro is stronger than the Dollar and therefore they have adapted their prices accordingly.
Even upcoming titles Like Borderlands: The Prequel have different prices for the European market: $59.99 compared to €49.99

In fact, Paradox is just abusing Europeans by charging extra high € prices.
 

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Damn, will buy it anyway, but was really hoping it would be no more than 15. I'm sure it's an awesome expansion, but 20 euros is a bit too much in my opinion. Maybe I'll wait.
 

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I heard consoles are super expensive though, because of massive taxes. Is that true?

Yes, if you buy a PS4 in a local store you'll have to pay something around U$1680, and a Xbox One is something around U$882, while the WiiU is something like U$714

That's why most of people buy from people who import it (A PS4 costs R$4000 while from someone who imports it is just R$1300~1500), an iPhone here costs U$1400+ and a high ending PC at least U$2000

I have a 3ds and most of games here cost +- U$60~70 and games of PS4/Xbox One/WiiU cost like U$80~90

But they at least are translating many games into portuguese, which is nice.
 

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It's so worth it. Keep adding ROTW contents, I will even pay $30!
I'm glad to know! Can you give some examples what is worth that money based on your gaming experience? Because I don't want to believe that you state something is worth money without actually playing it...

BTW more provinces is a feature of free patch, not DLC.

And don't get me wrong people- I can't wait for this expansion as well but... 20 euro is a bit too much for me IF the game brings only the major features we already know (army builder, new papacy, unrest, fleet features). I hope there is some more, in-depth improvements/features and for player's sake finally improved naval warfare (no more fleet wipes in single battle). After previous expansions which I had been buying on the day of release this time I'm a bit more suspicous and will wait for reviews. 20 euro? Will wait for sales... Until it's really worth it. BTW why American players can pay less? It's a bit unfair, isn't it?

Since I seem to recall that CoP was £10 (66% of $/€), we can assume that AoW will be about £14 (give or take a pound or two).
If that's the case then ok, hopefully they will not charge £20:blink: I really like Paradox games but I'm not that... unsmart, to pay such disproportionate price. Doesn't matter if it's Paradox or any other company.
 
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BTW why American players can to pay less? It's a bit unfair, isn't it?
Because Paradox has decided to charge Europeans more. Their price-policy is worse than the ones of larger corporations.
 

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Exchange rates are only a part of the story. You also need to consider VAT & other taxes and the purchasing power of $1 or €1 in the local economy. Prices in US$ and € tend to be similar because someone making US$50k in the States would make about €50k doing the same job in, say, Italy. Paradox, and any other business, would be throwing away money if they didn't take this into account.

This happens all over the world and in just about every industry.

not true... wages are way lower in Italy
 
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