SMH...

[21oliver]

I log in after some time away...and 5 of the first 8 threads are about changing the game (mods, conversions etc...), keep in mind the game hasn't launched yet.

You guys need to take a breath and slow down. How about playing the game first before worrying about changing it?

 

[GundamMerc]

I log in after some time away...and 5 of the first 8 threads are about changing the game (mods, conversions etc...), keep in mind the game hasn't launched yet.

You guys need to take a breath and slow down. How about playing the game first before worrying about changing it?

Because making a mod requires planning in advance. If you don't have all the time to do everything yourself (especially true of total conversion mods), you first have to recruit a team to help you with the project. Then you need to figure out what all you will be modding and exactly how extensive you want your mod to be. Only then can you even think about actually starting on the mod itself.

So there will probably be plenty of time to play it before we actually mod it.

 

[Hanger_18]

Because i already want the time frame to go into the 60- or later

 

[leeuw]

Because the new modding tools look sooooo coooool that you cannot think to not use them!

 

[RabbidHamster]

Because this sort of massive detail oriented game attracts detail oriented people that, well, like their details just... so...

 

[Axe99]

Just because people are writing about modding doesn't mean that's necessarily what they'll be doing day one (indeed, I'd expect it to be a poor design choice to start modding something before playing a stack of it un-modded to better understand what they're tinkering with), and there's only so much to talk about, so sharing plans about mods isn't a crazy thing to do.

That's not to say I'm not crazy looking forward to the base game though, and while I am doing research for naval modding (corvettes FTW!), if the game wasn't moddable at all I'd still be very much looking forward to it.

 

[Sparrow]

Because reasons!

Many of us mod HOI for house rules, change things, add other things.

 

[linkeagleandzen]

M8, half the fun of pc gaming is modding. I know I for one have spent more time modding every bethesda game than playing it.

Devs can't make such rich and powerful modding tools as PDS has for HOI and not expect us to use them. I'll be very excited to finally dip my toes into the world of making mods with HOI4 after seeing how integral, intuitive and well put together this game's modding tools look like they're going to be. It'll be lovely experience before I start working at making my own games and I'm very thankful to PDS for making this aspect of the game and of the community as much of a priority as they have.

 

[vipic]

Because you need the artists to start making the art models. Programming is easy, art is hard.

Edit: You should see the guis i've created for my programs, granted i'm getting better, I can do shading now, kind-of, though when i'm all done it still looks like a grade-schooler just picked up his own copy of Photoshop.

 

[Nicolas I]

I log in after some time away...and 5 of the first 8 threads are about changing the game (mods, conversions etc...), keep in mind the game hasn't launched yet. ...You guys need to take a breath and slow down. How about playing the game first before worrying about changing it?

I wonder how long you were away because modding is inherent to Paradox games, they are even encouraging it and consider it in the designing process of their games.

One of the last DDs was even devoted to modding: https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/foru...-iron-iv-development-diary-52-modding.920875/

Haven't you seen in the news section they just launched the Clausewitz Maya Exporter to help people making 3D models ?

Enjoy the vanilla game as you want, let others try modding if they find it fun. Live and let live !

 

[Fee.Xato]

I'm looking forward to see all of the brilliant mods and have a go at making my own mods. So in my eyes the more planning the better

 

[Rommel41]

Some things are clearly going to be needed to be changed. Each person has their own expectations.

Mine was a game with counters, an oob, province names, and more!

I've known I was going to have to figure out how to mod these things since they were all confirmed as dropped a year or more ago.

And since I was only ever good at editing text files, I have a lot of graphic work to understand by the time it's released if I want these results.

So, no time to wait.

 

[GundamMerc]

Some things are clearly going to be needed to be changed. Each person has their own expectations.

Mine was a game with counters, an oob, province names, and more!

I've known I was going to have to figure out how to mod these things since they were all confirmed as dropped a year or more ago.

And since I was only ever good at editing text files, I have a lot of graphic work to understand by the time it's released if I want these results.

So, no time to wait.

counters are actually optional, they showed it off in WWW.

 

[KalZakath]

Because of just one word.... ERRORDAWG!!!!!

 

[Rommel41]

counters are actually optional, they showed it off in WWW.

Not the kind I want. It's not in the current design.

 

[potski]

The kind you probably want can't be done by a mod. You can hide the 3D model, and change the appearance of the counters, but not their functionality. You can't mod HOI3 type counters into HOI4. Nor can you mod an OOB hierarchy.

 

[JerkyJerry]

How about playing the game first before worrying about changing it?

I don't really think it is about changing it. It is adding to the game. And when the game company provides the tools and instructions ya kinda gota put it together that this is company driven just as much as it is player wanted.
Remember these guys (and gals) who mod absolutely love the game. If you are also a fanboi (like me) you should maybe think about viewing modders in a more positive light. They are good for the game, series and genre.
Thanks you modders!!!

 

[21oliver]

You guys need to take a breath lol

 

[Tarroque]

As far as I can tell the mods are more about adding different situations rather than rebalancing. Why would you want to wait with adding content, especially when it's easier than ever?

 

[vector1]

It's exactly because the game hasn't released that we're all talking about modding it. No one knows what the game is going to be exactly (other than devs and betas) so us lesser mortals are just going to have to fill the time talking about what we want to do with it!

Also on a more serious note, paradox only has so many people working on "important" stuff like AI, events, scripts etc. I'm reasonably sure there's a much larger audience modding the game to add detail/improvements where paradox lacks the time to.