Small nations are a literal grind now

[Thatiswackson]

Expanding as a small nation in the HRE feels already impossible as I will have to wait decades to be able to attack anyone. Taking 3 provinces one being a core and vassalizing a nation should not warrant a response such as this. Are there any plans on nerfing coaltions?

 

[Wooden]

1449 dude 1449

 

[quoms]

You need to be diploannexing literally everything that is not a core. This is not what you should look like five years in, especially in the HRE (where 1.5 has increased AE way out of proportion to other regions).

 

[Sairoh]

You should take it slow at first. Just because you can take a bunch of land, don't. Get claims on all the provinces you plain on taking. Take 1-2 at a time, focus on diplomacy and when you cored your new gains then go at it again. The game really punishes aggressive expansion especially in that region.

 

[gnome109]

Yeah coalitions were broken in 1.4 and before, 1.5 just made the problem stand out more.

 

[Sairoh]

Yeah coalitions were broken in 1.4 and before, 1.5 just made the problem stand out more.

I personally don't mind it. You just need to be more patient. It does make since to make a lot of Nations around you nervous when you just took half of their neighbor’s land.

 

[delpiero1234]

Small nations are a literal grind now

Yes you are very right about this.
I recommend not buying any DLCs and not playing EU IV until paradox fixes AE and collations. 1.4.1 was by no means perfect but at least the game was in a playable state.
1.5 is plain boring. You can read a book while waiting for AE to cool down --> not fun.

 

[gnome109]

I personally don't mind it. You just need to be more patient. It does make since to make a lot of Nations around you nervous when you just took half of their neighbor’s land.

http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?757081-Why-Coalitions-are-Broken-1.5-and-Before
I feel this thread sums it up quite well. I feel "smart" coalitions could really add to the game, just not in the current state.

 

[brifbates]

You should take it slow at first. Just because you can take a bunch of land, don't. Get claims on all the provinces you plain on taking. Take 1-2 at a time, focus on diplomacy and when you cored your new gains then go at it again. The game really punishes aggressive expansion especially in that region.

This.

Another thing to remember is that nations can only join one coalition at a time and that will *usually* be the one they have the most AE from. If you let someone else start the hate raining down you can often let them get the hate & coalition while you merrily expand. To be honest though, that situation isn't too terrible as long as you can keep Austria and Poland as allies you can curbstomp that coalition.

 

[Thatiswackson]

You should take it slow at first. Just because you can take a bunch of land, don't. Get claims on all the provinces you plain on taking. Take 1-2 at a time, focus on diplomacy and when you cored your new gains then go at it again. The game really punishes aggressive expansion especially in that region.

Taking it slow just is not fun, i don't want to wait for 30 minutes real time just to barely expand. This may suit some people but not me, and quite a few other people as well.

 

[Chamboozer]

Taking it slow just is not fun, i don't want to wait for 30 minutes real time just to barely expand. This may suit some people but not me, and quite a few other people as well.

It would be fine if there were actual peacetime gameplay in EUIV.

 

[TheMeInTeam]

It would be fine if there were actual peacetime gameplay in EUIV.

But there isn't, unless you consider watching a timer gameplay. That said, the devs said the game is about expanding, so this kind of limitation is a bit perplexing. It would be a lot more plausible and challenging if other nations also tried to expand at a fast rate, and would look to stick you if you got overextended in the military sense. The only function coalitions are particularly good at right now is rate limiting and tedium, which are not good goals (especially the latter).

 

[Sairoh]

Keep in mind that AE mainly affects your neighbors. So if you get alliances with Poland and Hungary or even Demark since they are not that close to you then you could expand and ignore the coalitions. Looks like most of the nations ticked off at you are pretty minor. Personally, I nurse my nation during peacetime: Manage diplomacy, build a bit, get my trade worked out etc then fast forward. Just take care which direction you expand, get the right allies and you can still conquer away I believe.

 

[Rider_of_Doom]

The AI is doing things like the TE everytime in the HRE... with no coalitions. France invades the HRE in every game, took Savoy, a few northern minors and so on in a few wars within 15 years and there will be only a coalition of 2 or 3 minors next to them.

The current coalitions only hurts the player. AI can blobbing like before, but the player can't.

 

[aitaituo]

Notice that Austria and Poland have no AE, even though that peace deal would have given you around 40 base AE and Austria is the Emperor and Poland borders you.

This is because they are your allies. Allying someone you want to conquer later is a very good strategy.

Most of the HRE is OPMs, 2PMs, and 3PMs. They are extremely threatened by any Prince getting larger and have little recourse to stop you, because they can't make a large enough web of alliances to stop you and the Emperor will not protect them, so the bigger you become the drastically more dangerous you become to them. Bohemia has probably rivaled you as well and desires your provinces, in addition to being a Prince Elector who doesn't want you threatening them. The Teutonic Order is naturally worried because you just took a province from them and couldn't defeat you. Denmark straddles the Empire, wants provinces in the Empire, and doesn't want to fight Austria plus a powerful northern Prince to get those provinces.

Without this AE, there would be very little to stop you from simply conquering the whole Empire piece by piece while the other Princes watch in terror as they wait for you to swallow them whole.

 

[Morgan Wight]

Keep in mind that AE mainly affects your neighbors.

Sadly, the massive weakening of AE attentuation in 1.5 means that this isn't entirely true. It may be worse for your neighbors, but it's still bad even outside of that sphere.

 

[arctus]

he took quite much, so its seems balanced to me. also its just 4 years in the game, no need for hurry here

 

[delpiero1234]

he took quite much, so its seems balanced to me. also its just 4 years in the game, no need for hurry here

And now he can wait 50 years for the AE to cool down. It's silly. You take a few provinces and then for the next decades you can't do shit in this game. Why can't you do shit? Because EU IV is about conquering (the developers admitted that many times). There is nothing to do during peace (unless you are one of the few nations that can colonize in 1.5 but colonization is extremely boring and not rewarding at all).

 

[arctus]

And now he can wait 50 years for the AE to cool down. It's silly. You take a few provinces and then for the next decades you can't do chit in this game. Why can't you do shit? Because EU IV is about conquering (the developers admitted that many times). There is nothing to do during peace (unless you are one of the few nations that can colonize in 1.5 but colonization is extremely boring and not rewarding at all).

yes its about conquest but in a 400 year and not in a 4 year time scale. sometimes you have to limit yourself to get best results

 

[Morgan Wight]

yes its about conquest but in a 400 year and not in a 4 year time scale. sometimes you have to limit yourself to get best results

Then why do so many missions encourage you to go cripple yourself with AE?