Small Divisions vs Large Divisions
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You can add arty to combat slots. Johan did it in his twitter-Netherlands campaign.
I know it doesn't really have anything to do with this thread but why do they still have the Dutch flag upside down? I can see that Johan probably went communist or something like that (atleast an ideological change) so that explains the Hammer, but it seems the flag is upside down regardless of ideology because I can remember earlier screenshots where the flag was also like this. I know this is a 'minor' issue compared to greater problems like getting the AI right but please change the flag before the release. If you still want different colors for the Dutch flag I'd suggest the Orange-White-Blue flag for a fascist Netherlands (The NSB favored the flag, therefore it is still a bit controversial nowadays) but I can't remember a time when the flag was Blue-White-Red. Sorry for the rant folks but I just wanted to get that out of the way.
EDIT: Seems like I wasn't the only one who saw this, the poster before believed it had to do with the Netherlands joining the Comintern which sounds plausible but it still seems a bit strange to me. It also doesn't change the fact that in earlier vid's and dev diaries the flag was also turned upside down.
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That doesn't really matter, that’s the hammer. The Dutch flag is red, white and blue not the other way around.
I have seen this error before in a screenshot..... After doing it right in EU I – IV, VIC I and II and HOI I – III al off the sudden they don’t know the Dutch flag?
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the upside down dutch flag is not an error, that is the new flag for the Dutch if they join the Comintern. If you feel this is not the right flag to represent communist dutchmen, they you think that it was a mistake to turn the flag upside down as opposed to adding a hammer and sickle or something else, but it is still not an error. rather it would be a poor choice of flag in your opinion.
also worth noting, There are two types of artillery you can assign to a division (ignoring rocket artillery); a support company of artillery OR a brigade unit of artillery. that is what denkt was meaning when he said if you have 9x inf you can still add 11x artillery. He meant the brigade of artillery, not a support company. I doubt that combat width would let you use a full template of artillery very well; once your division exceeds combat width you're going to lose some of it's effectiveness.
also worth noting, There are two types of artillery you can assign to a division (ignoring rocket artillery); a support company of artillery OR a brigade unit of artillery. that is what denkt was meaning when he said if you have 9x inf you can still add 11x artillery. He meant the brigade of artillery, not a support company. I doubt that combat width would let you use a full template of artillery very well; once your division exceeds combat width you're going to lose some of it's effectiveness.
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The only people who can answer that are the Devs - maybe they deemed that the country should be permanently in distress? Maybe it was just sloppy and careless.
Well I have seen it in other screens, without the hammer and sickle, but also upside down. That makes it an error not an opinion....
And please give me a example off a communist country that turned her flag, with was used for 444 years, upside down.
In development diary 11, 12 and 14 the flag is upside down. In development diary 31 it's right, so I have hope that they fixed it.
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The size and composition of a division depends on the mission that it's expected to do. Japanese and US infantry divisions were usually large because they had a lot of support units and were designed to accomplish a variety of different kinds of missions. They were designed to be versatile and self-sufficient.
Paratroopers and mountain divisions have to be small because of their missions. They can't be encumbered with artillery, trucks, and large fields hospitals and still be effective at what they were supposed to do - jump out of airplanes behind enemy lines or climb mountains to reach the enemy. They have to be able to operate effectively on little or no supply.
Even motorized, mechanized, and armored divisions have to be scaled down to the level of equipment, supply, manpower, fuel, and ammunition that the country's military organization can deliver to them. They can't accomplish any mission if they require too much fuel.
So small versus large is kind of an abstract question without specifying what the mission and constraints are. It's kind of like asking which is the better tank, Tiger 1 or T-34, without specifying the criteria, mission, and constraints. The question is how effective are they, large or small.
In a nutshell, small divisions are good for some things and large divisions are good for other things.
Paratroopers and mountain divisions have to be small because of their missions. They can't be encumbered with artillery, trucks, and large fields hospitals and still be effective at what they were supposed to do - jump out of airplanes behind enemy lines or climb mountains to reach the enemy. They have to be able to operate effectively on little or no supply.
Even motorized, mechanized, and armored divisions have to be scaled down to the level of equipment, supply, manpower, fuel, and ammunition that the country's military organization can deliver to them. They can't accomplish any mission if they require too much fuel.
So small versus large is kind of an abstract question without specifying what the mission and constraints are. It's kind of like asking which is the better tank, Tiger 1 or T-34, without specifying the criteria, mission, and constraints. The question is how effective are they, large or small.
In a nutshell, small divisions are good for some things and large divisions are good for other things.
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If you read carefully you'll see that I referenced the addition of a hammer an sickle to the flag as a possible example of something they could of done instead of simply turning the flag upside down; so, if you had seen a hammer and sickle, you'd need your eyes checked. This should of been a contextual hint that I too feel turning the flag upside down is a bit confusing and maybe not the best choice.
When I say it is "not an error" I mean only that the choice of the upside down flag was intentional and is not a bug... No need for you to get all bent out shape and act as if what I said was absurd or stupid. I'm done with this thread, so don't bother with an angry comeback.
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The flag issue should be another thread since it has nothing to do with the posting.
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Dude calm down, degrading an sure error to just an opinion and getting mad when I don't agree, dude calm down...
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You can add ART/AT and AA to any slot apparently. So you could have your 3 inf in one slot as well as an ART and AT. The units not in the support section are also bigger units worth more stats unless they have changed that.
example each reg could contain
INF
INF
ART
AT
AA
if you so desired. This is how i understand it working. So including a really beefy setup it could look like this including support in the first row
RCN INF INF INF
ENG INF INF INF
SIG INF INF INF
RART ART AT AA
MED
This div would contain almost every addon you can get barring a few, but would be very expensive equipment wise.
PS. Ugh its not keeping the formatting in the last example so it looks like junk.
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You do know that it is irrelevant, which row/column a unit is, right? Just a question, no offense.
Thats not exactly true. For example art in the support column is less powerfull than one placed in the normal combat unit column (less pieces of artillery) according to the DD's and developer posts. Also only certain units can go into the support column so if you fill it up with ART/AA/AT you have the possibility of missing out on units that can only go there like RCN/ENG/MED/SIG etc. I'd say that makes it highly rellevant if you want to mazimixe the strength of a division. So yes where you put some of these is relevant dependent on what you would like in the support section.
As an example if you fill your support section with
RCN
ENG
ART
AT
AA
you would not be able to ad SIG/MED etc because they can ONLY go in the support column.
Where as if you built
RCN
ENG
SIG
MED
AA
you could still place ART and AT units in with the combat units. This makes placement highly relevant. Now where you place the units types that can go into either that is irrelevant as long as they aren't blocking you from using a usefull suppport battalion.
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In real life or in the game?
I guess there are advantages and disadvantages with both divisional architecture.
With binary solution the same amount of equip and manpower there are more divisions.
U can assign more tasks, AI may better distribute them on the territory.
With triangular every division is more strong and have more combat width.
Depend how AI use it, 3 binary divisions vs 2 triangular could be an interesting challenge.
Hapsburg Netherlands it is.Im sure you meant Spanish Netherlands...
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If you don’t mind, I prefer the Burgundian Netherlands, the good old days so lets use the Burgundian cross.Im sure you meant Spanish Netherlands...
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